[JC70SS]

Ok guys I have pics of a build sheet, cowl tag and engine stamp. I need to verify this is a real LS5. Please e-mail or post here if you can help and I will send you or post pics.


Joe

 

[Ethan1]

Post all the info you have on here. There quite a few guys that will help!:yes::thumbsup:

 

[JC70SS]

ok I will have it in 10 min

 

[Ethan1]

ok I will have it in 10 min

Sounds good.

 

[JC70SS]

Ok

VIN is 136370A129403

Engine stamp as far as I can tell is T0109 CRT 70A129403

Does the stamp look legit....pics are as good as I could get.
Build sheet looks legit?


Fire away!

 

[JC70SS]

more....

 

[Ethan1]

Ok

VIN is 136370A129403

Engine stamp as far as I can tell is T0109 CRT 70A129403

Does the stamp look legit....pics are as good as I could get.
Build sheet looks legit?


Fire away!

1- Chevrolet
36- Malibu, 8 Cylinder
37- 2-Door Sport Coupe
0- 1970
A- Atlanta, Georgia (Assembly Plant)
129403- Sequential Production Number

Engine is a LS5 454cid/360hp 4-Speed Chevelle engine.

The partial VIN also matches the of your car. I'm not expert at the stampings and build sheets, but there are quite a few that do.

 

[Ethan1]

Trim Tag:

70- 1970
13637- Malibu Sport Coupe
A- Atlanta, Georgia (Assembly Plant)
23523- Data Processing Number (Found in block 8 of the build sheet)
756- Black Coated Fabric (Bucket Seats)
B80- Roof Drip Molding
B90- Door Window Frame Molding
28/28- Fathom Blue (Upper/Lower Body Color)
02A- February, 1st Week
197137- Data Processing Number (Found in block 24 of build sheet)
84- Data Processing Number (Found in block 10 of build sheet)
0044- Data Processing Number (Found in block 24 of build sheet)

:thumbsup:

 

[blacknblue]

Joe, I don't want to rain on your parade but I'm thinking the build sheet is real but the engine is a restamp. A better photo looking straight at the engine stamp would confirm it, but even from the angle of the photos provided I would most certainly say it's a restamp. Just one mans opinion.

 

[bcmiller]

Need better pics of the engine pad.

Also find out casting number of block (should be 3963512) and casting date of the block to compare to the assembly date stamped on the pad.

Did you check numbers on the heads, intake and carb too?

 

[DaleM]

You might double-check the partial VIN stamped on the engine pad as well. If it's truly 70A129403, then it's been restamped as it should be 10A129403. A "1" and a "7" can look alike on a stamp if you're not paying real close attention.

 

[RixLS6]

Joe, I don't want to rain on your parade but I'm thinking the build sheet is real but the engine is a restamp. A better photo looking straight at the engine stamp would confirm it, but even from the angle of the photos provided I would most certainly say it's a restamp. Just one mans opinion.

I agree that the buildsheet seems real, but the pad stamping looks wrong.

 

[lrdvdr41]

PAd stamp does not look right to me either., but it is hard to be 100% certain from the pics provided.

 

[JC70SS]

ok 2 questions.

1. How do I get a better picture without asking the guy to remove the alternator?
2. The car was restored around 1995....would re-stamping be a common practice in that time period? i was just getting out of H.S. then, so I have no clue.

 

[704EVER]

Joe, I think you'd have to remove the alternator to get a straight on picture. I would agree with the others who don't like the stamp as well. I also think you can see enough right here in these pictures to make that judgement. If the original motor being present is an absolute must for you with this car, I would just pass. I don't think anymore pictures are going to change what most here already see. Good luck.

 

[m22456]

you people are crazy. that is a one not a seven. that motor looks good to me. look at it its a 1 not a 7!!! it hardly looks like the motor has even been out of the car.

 

[704EVER]

you people are crazy. that is a one not a seven. that motor looks good to me. look at it its a 1 not a 7!!! it hardly looks like the motor has even been out of the car.

From my perspective, I'm not even considering the 1 or 7 stamping, there are other dead give aways. The original poster came seeking sound advice concerning the stamp and I believe he got it. I also don't care if the motor looks like it has never been out of the car, that makes zero difference to me. Whoever buys this car with the idea that this is the original motor might be disappointed to find otherwise in the future. JMO on it.

 

[DaleM]

ok 2 questions.

1. How do I get a better picture without asking the guy to remove the alternator?
2. The car was restored around 1995....would re-stamping be a common practice in that time period? i was just getting out of H.S. then, so I have no clue.

Yes, it was being done even back then. The Chevelle Report (of the old NCOA) has an article in the August issue of 1992 showing all the items needed to do it.

 

[DaleM]

you people are crazy. that is a one not a seven. that motor looks good to me. look at it its a 1 not a 7!!! it hardly looks like the motor has even been out of the car.

Typos and misreading of numbers/letters is quite common, especially if you don't know what you're looking for. When reading what someone else writes it's often easy to overlook a questionable item when you're focused on something else. It took me several visits to the thread before it hit me that 70 was written instead of 10. Doesn't make someone crazy. FWIW, it's also easier to read a post when punctuation and capitalization is at least attempted. :yes:

 

[JC70SS]

Joe, I think you'd have to remove the alternator to get a straight on picture. I would agree with the others who don't like the stamp as well. I also think you can see enough right here in these pictures to make that judgement. If the original motor being present is an absolute must for you with this car, I would just pass. I don't think anymore pictures are going to change what most here already see. Good luck.

Original motor is not important. Build sheet is. At a $32000 asking price now that we can conclude NOM, what would be a decent price considering it needs a repaint eventually? Interior is MINT, paint is decent driver quality?