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XRi Ignition Module Drop Out

2.5K views 28 replies 8 participants last post by  NickeyChevelle  
#1 ·
So I installed one a few months ago and all was fine..Its 454 with a stock points distributer and stock AC Delco coil.

All is good and the car runs fine but there seems to be a drop out (like it shuts off and turns back on in millisecond) especially when its hot. Its an intermittent stutter and and under acceleration. Its just fine at speed otherwise though.

I installed per the instructions with the coil attachments..etc.

I also dont run any vacuum advance and have a base timing of 18deg.

One thing I noticed that the plate the module and the points stat on did have a little bit of play or a wobble in it but it has never affected it with the condition above previously.

Anyone had this issue at all?

Thanks Pat
 

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#4 ·
Under the master cylinder, the firewall feed thru. It is common for the connections to corrode and turn green. Clean them with fine sandpaper or steel wool and coat with dielectric grease. Disconnect the battery 1st.
 
#8 ·
NO, an "internally resisted" coil does not resist the points and condenser in electronic point replacement ignition (drop-in) systems. To properly resist the coil and ignition unit, the resistor has to be in place BEFORE the coil and ignition unit, coil internals only resist from the positive post on the coil into the primary coil windings, not the ignition unit.
 
#10 ·
Thanks guys. So the car ran fine for a few months and now it’s having the issue.

If it were something like a required resistor wire would it not have acted that way from the time I installed it?

How would I know I do or don’t have a resistor wire in place or already installed.

Where would I look for it?

Also it seems to act up when the car is hot.. like I could drive it for 20mins and no issues. Once shut off for a few minutes and I come back to it then I would notice the problem.

The bulkhead connector is clean and secure with no signs of corrosion btw.

Thanks
Pat
 
#15 ·
Sounds like it could be heat effecting the electronics in the module. Did the installation include thermal grease between the module and the distributor? Any chance the module is still under warranty? Trying another module would be a good test, but probably too pricey to experiment...
 
#16 ·
I believe it did have thermal grease. I can clean the old stuff off and add more. I’ve got some from my PC I built if that would work.

Or even try a new module as well.

I too somehow think it’s related to the heat as it’s only an issue when the car has been running, shut off and sits for 15mins or so.. then whe I go back to drive it, and it’s got the issue. It’s also fine at hwy speed and rpm..


So the 12v I’m seeing is correct at the coil?

Thanks
 
#19 ·
Is that whats causing the drop out do you believe?

I see from some research that it seems to be the case with these sometimes and it needs a resistor.

So just something like this?


If I go to Petronix and a Petronix coil with a resistor built in will that work? I may be wrong but I though they had an "all in system"

Im probably wrong about this but would that white wire in the picture be the resistance wire that comes from the bulkhead connector?

Apprecaited!
 

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#23 ·
One thing I noticed is the plate that the module sits on inside the distributor is loose..it seems to move up and..not side to side, more than i think it should.

Im assuming it shouldn't do that and it should be perfectly secure inside the distributor?

Just want to make sure..

Thanks again.
 
#24 ·
If you are not using the vacuum advance then the plate needs to stay in one position so the timing doesn't change or the gap to change. The plate also needs to be grounded which it looks like it is in your picture. Make sure your ground is clean and tight.
 
#25 ·
Thanks. I’ll go through it all. The plate is definitely moving.. not left to right but it does have some up and down play in it.

I was actually considering a petronix distributor and coil and being done with it, especially if it’s a drop in and bolt on and stock appearing.