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#41 ·
If it doesn't have the boxed frame it's a fake.And the body shop I work at could fix that car no problem if you have about $25-40k and a year to wait.We just got done with a hemi cuda that's selling at Barret Jackson Auction.
 
#42 ·
Rich-L79 said:
I don't see the holes in the quarters you mention, I do see some rust flakes, but no trim holes. The holes in the rear quarters above the tail lights are needed since the 300s and Z16s did use trim pieces here, they were simply trim pieces which were flat and painted body color but still needed the same mounting holes.

It also appears to have the correct Z16-specific trim holes in both the tail light panels and the trunklid. Not all Z16s had vinyl roofs so whether there is a vinyl roof or not tells us nothing specific.

Well maybe it is a Z16 then. I did`nt know there was a body color trim panel that bolted above the tail lights. I have never seen one of these cars in person, only in magazines and never noticed any body color trim. I agree it would be very hard to duplicate this car if it in fact has all of the parts listed. The only way to tell for sure is by the trim tag which I was unable to read clearly. and if the VIN numbers match the frame numbers. I`m still a little leery but who knows. It could be real.
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#44 ·
the guy told me it is #19 in the regestry...i just got out bid...i talked to the owner via email,and he has talked to the 2nd owner...not much else said!..
 
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#45 ·
Guys, the car is genuine, and it is exactly where I guessed. Other than the vin tag, trim tag, and some assorted pieces, there is almost nothing worthwhile there.

Stating the obvious - that car needs everything!

The kicker is that the seller apparently already owns another Z-16!

I say that we can all be prepared to see some astonishing money paid for this shell of a car.

It will almost not be fair to call the resurection of these few bits into a show winner a restoration. More like a frame and tag replacement on some otherwise fine '65 Malibu.

Thomas
 
#46 ·
Only 2 feedbacks (although they are 100%) bothers me. Any body selling something for this kind of money should have an established feedback to back up his claims.
 
#50 ·
:eek: The bids for this rusted out hunk of metal are already more than I could probably get for my Chevelle (in my sig). I feel depressed now.
Other than that, what is with the painted carb gasket templates all over the body of the car? WTF???
How does such a rare car get into a sad state like that anyway? I don't think my Chevelle could ever look that bad if I left it out in the snow for 20 years. How does that happen?????
 
#51 ·
What do you think his reserve is on this pile of rust with good tag numbers? He might have put it super high just to see what it will bring for bids.
Although it is cool to think you could own a "Z-16" by just pointing and clicking. Still have to hunt far and wide to get the right pieces to finish it correctly, but I guess money is no object to these people, is it?
 
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#52 ·
northern 396 said:
This is irrational, at least on some levels. The thought of bidding also crossed my mind, even though I know it looks like a $500 car.
David
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You're right, it is irrational. I was thinking I was crazy for suggesting a trade for my 62 Corvette. I'm probably lucky Dennis isn't interested in a trade. When the muscle car mania wears off, I'll probably be glad to still have the Corvette. What was I thinking!

Bruce
 
#53 ·
No, Bruce, you'll look back and remember the day that you had a chance to buy a Z16 Chevelle and beat yourself up because you didn't buy and restore it. That's the day when the Z16's are bringing 2 mil and the 62 Vet is still worth 35-50 thou.
 
#54 ·
PRO65 said:
Has anyone noticed how shiney the rivets are that is holding on the tag?
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The VIN tag? The VIN plate and rivets are stainless steel, they very likely would still be shiny since their location protects them from sun and scratches. The VIN plate on my as-yet-unrestored wagon is still very shiny as are the rivets even though the body looks like a crusty hulk.
 
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Epistuff said:
:eek: The bids for this rusted out hunk of metal are already more than I could probably get for my Chevelle (in my sig). I feel depressed now.
Other than that, what is with the painted carb gasket templates all over the body of the car? WTF???
How does such a rare car get into a sad state like that anyway? I don't think my Chevelle could ever look that bad if I left it out in the snow for 20 years. How does that happen?????
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I'll bet that paint job was considered quite "mod" in the '70's. Take a look at the paint schemes on drag racers of the day and you'll see what I mean. How could it look so horrible? Neglect and the elements. Store your car outside with total neglect for 10-20 years and it will look no better.

You have to remember that back in the day this car was probably considered another hot car, but probably was never recognized as something rare and special at the time. I'd venture a guess the original engine was blown early in life due to abuse and/or racing and the rest of the car was stripped of the interesting parts over the years instead of just letting them waste away on a beat up, rusted out hulk. Little did they know it was a very rare and collectible car by future standards.
 
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#56 ·
The hunt for all of the missing pieces, in mint condition, would be a huge challenge in itself. I'd say you'd need unlimited funds and about 2-4 yrs just to obtain the pieces/parts.
But I imagine it would be well worth it in the end.
If somebody does buy this car with the intention of restoring it to original, IT WILL have it's numbers matching/date code correct components when done, I assure you.
If I was 20 years younger and filthy rich, I'd be the new owner.
Sure you can buy a restored or nice original Z16, but where is the challenge in that !
If I owned a succesful bodyshop, I'd buy this in a heartbeat.

And after it was all done, I'd drive it every day !

N~
 
#57 ·
Rich-L79 said:
You have to remember that back in the day this car was probably considered another hot car, but probably was never recognized as something rare and special at the time. I'd venture a guess the original engine was blown early in life due to abuse and/or racing and the rest of the car was stripped of the interesting parts over the years instead of just letting them waste away on a beat up, rusted out hulk. Little did they know it was a very rare and collectible car by future standards.
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I agree. Wilbur drops big cow on the car, goes and blows it up, then sells it to a younger guy who hates the stick (or it was gone too), so swaps in an auto, then makes it a daily driver. Brakes could have also been changed out when they found out how much they would cost to fix. For some reason it sits for a while, then someone offered some dough for the second big-block/trans and rr end (part it out?). He maybe never knew how rare the car was, just thought it was a stripped down Big Block car.

CSI for car guys......
It is just a guess.
 
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#60 ·
he wants a hundred bucks for that? OMG.... its been overdue for the crusher is all that i can say..
AT least he rolled it* to show you the extent of the floorpans....
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