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1969 SS Chevelle, LeMans Blue, bench seat, black vinyl top, auto on column, non-air, non-matching numbers engine, 396 BB, unknown horse, TH400, completely restored frame off, completed about 3-5 years ago but driven very little if at all (I know, hard to believe but true), underside is painted body color as is fire wall. The car is pretty nice, has a small dent in driver door from a child's mishap that is being fixed. Any thoughts on value?? I just might be giving an offer on this car, even though it's not Cortez Silver.

Not the best pictures, but it's all I have now.

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Because it takes a pretty nice documented 4 speed bucket 69 SS to get to $30K, I think you back this one down to $25K or back. The column/bench hurt and the firewall /underside color are going to turn off someone paying a premium for an original type car. For it to be at $25K with a NOM it had better be drop dead gorgeous and needing nothing. Just not enough pics to even be real confident of $20K. Lot more pics and info needed.

Once again..................asking price?
 
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I agree with John about the bench seat/column shift and the painted firewall and underside of the floor. More pictures would definitely help with determining a ballpark price. Has the drivers door handle been removed for the repairs on the door or is the car not complete
? Appears to be a nice car so far.
 
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This guy has been working on this car for 15 years...put his heart and soul into it.

He is a friend of the family and I have known him the whole time he has been working on this car. He did all the body work and paint himself...nice job, too. When he got it done, he never really drove it. Not even registered or on the road. But it's not a 4 speed, bucket car that would bring the money. And I'm not sure about the engine and what was done to it. He wants $25K, which is well below what he wanted last summer (high 30's). His situation has changed and is reflected in his price. The figure that was in my mind last summer was 18-19K, but I did not want to offend him so I never made an offer. Now might be the time.
 
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Bruce you have seen it and you are the prospective buyer. That places you well beyond any of us. $20K in the winter is a sack full more money than $19K in the summer. Offer what you feel is good value for you. Consider nothing else including friendship. No need to overpay especially when it is not what you were really looking for. He may not know it yet but your $20K +/- is probably the best offer he may get for awhile.

Even though it looks nice it does not have anything, 4 speed, buckets, documentation, original drivetrain, etc. to advance the money. Pretty common.
 
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:cool: Sorry, but that car is a long ways away from $20,000.00. Are there any documents to show that it's a factory built SS396 and not a clone? Nowadays you can buy a really nice "fool-'em-all" clone for that kind of money. This car has the wrong Booster, wrong M/C, etc. I wonder how the paint over the ouch is going to match.

Restored is one thing, correctly restored is another.

Is your friendship such that you'd give the seller $5,000.00 out of your pocket? Because that's what you'd be doing. It's not a deal, it's not even the color you want. PASS.
 
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If you like the car and can overlook that it isn't the Cortez Silver, has a bench seat, is NOM as well as the other incorrect items then make him an offer. You know the car, I assume you know the foundation he started with and the quality of the work that went into the restoration. This is more than most people know, it's a crap shoot buying a finished car from a stranger, can you ever be sure what you are really getting. It's all about what you want and how much you are willing to pay.

If you decide to make him an offer and don't want to offend him because he is your friend, I would and have approached it this way. Call him up, it's better in person, talk about the car and how you like it then tell him you would like to buy it from him, give him what you consider a reasonable offer by saying "I can afford XYZ". He may accept, or not. However, this is unlikely to put him off if you are sincere, unless you really low ball him.

Good luck with your decision.

Steve R
 
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NickeyChevelle said:
:cool: Sorry, but that car is a long ways away from $20,000.00. Are there any documents to show that it's a factory built SS396 and not a clone? Nowadays you can buy a really nice "fool-'em-all" clone for that kind of money. This car has the wrong Booster, wrong M/C, etc. I wonder how the paint over the ouch is going to match.

Restored is one thing, correctly restored is another.

Is your friendship such that you'd give the seller $5,000.00 out of your pocket? Because that's what you'd be doing. It's not a deal, it's not even the color you want. PASS.
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Here is the real problem Bruce, well there are two.

There are just not near enough pictures or description to give anyone solid advice on this car at $15K for you or even $20K for me. $15K is safe but that is probably not fair to the seller or buyer. I doubt either one of us would formulate a buying figure with so little to go on. I think for me I am going to require a lot more on a car before I start making statements that might influence someone and if the asking price is not disclosed I am not going to get sucked into a guessing game.

I was thinking last night just how little we actually do know about the market and values unless we use figures that are seemingly low. We probably do this because we just do not have access to a large enough number of actual sales outside of auctions and so many of those are getting done by dealers where reality and the truth seldom exist.
 
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Just my opinion I don't like silver but I suspect the quality of that car is possibly better than the blue one. Everyone wants more out of their car because it is their baby. The only way you can judge how much a car is worth is to look at numerous cars. I think you really need to look at the same year cars with similar quality as in body , interiors, undercarriage, under the hood and the like, you might need to look at several or more just to get a feel for they are selling for.

I guess to me I were to find a quality 69 that was cloned to a SS in every detail but was not a numbers matching car I could see 18,000-25000 and a number matching car I could see 25,000-32,000 for the right color combo and options. The living room furniture type car maybe in the 35,000+ range. We are talking a number 1 condition car though.
 
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plain 69 said:
Just my opinion I don't like silver but I suspect the quality of that car is possibly better than the blue one. Everyone wants more out of their car because it is their baby. The only way you can judge how much a car is worth is to look at numerous cars. I think you really need to look at the same year cars with similar quality as in body , interiors, undercarriage, under the hood and the like, you might need to look at several or more just to get a feel for they are selling for.

I guess to me I were to find a quality 69 that was cloned to a SS in every detail but was not a numbers matching car I could see 18,000-25000 and a number matching car I could see 25,000-32,000 for the right color combo and options. The living room furniture type car maybe in the 35,000+ range. We are talking a number 1 condition car though.
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I have owned 4 1969 Chevelles, all in various conditions. I have also been looking for "the" right one for years and have looked at least a dozen in that time. Each car had flaws that I could not live with. The problem is I have been reading these WIW threads and everyone's values on certain cars seem a bit low. I do like the critical eye guys here have that point out things I sometimes don't see.
 
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Any updates on either of the 69s, Bruce?
 
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