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You purists need to give this car and its owner a break...
X2, exactly. :yes:

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OhMan! toofakedforme,

I would like to see these 2 boys go to dinner and look at a menu. They both see surf and turf as the special. It is a picture of a succulent Filet and a Lobster tail. The price is great and they are hungry. Waiter brings their food and places their plates in front of them. Each plate has a big fresh steaming pile FECES on it. They look at each other and say "So what?" ...."were not all f---'ed about it like everyone else is"...."whats the big deal?" ....."I'm sure it was a PIA to prepare this meal".....but it doesnt look like what was on the menu that we ordered..."WHO CARES??"... he ponders for a half second then says "X2...EXACTLY.period:yes: ......then they proceed to EAT IT!
"69F41SS", laugh all you want smart a**...but I maintain what I said about some of you being too picky...and you're evidently the worst of all of them! :mad: I wouldn't want to hire you as a judge at a car show, because it's very likely that none of the cars entered would be nice enough for you! :rolleyes:...so yeah... WHO CARES? :wacko:

Claude. :waving: ;)

P.S: When I think of it, I wouldn't want you around, even as a spectator! l:)
 
X2, exactly. :yes:

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"69F41SS", laugh all you want smart a**...but I maintain what I said about some of you being too picky...and you're evidently the worst of all of them! :mad: I wouldn't want to hire you as a judge at a car show, because it's very likely that none of the cars entered would be nice enough for you! :rolleyes:...so yeah... WHO CARES? :wacko:

Claude. :waving: ;)

P.S: When I think of it, I wouldn't want you around, even as a spectator! l:)
Your plethora of knowledge would make you a much better judge at a car show indeed! Could you please use more emoticons? Your post make so much more sense with them. I definitely was too picky about this car, There are only a few minor issues with it. And the seller gave an honest description. This ad/car should be used as a model on how to accurately market a classic muscle car. What was I thinking? Sorry for being too picky as I was way out of line.
 
So, the overall opinion is he should just haul the damned thing to "Pick-a Part".
 
I agree...

The seller is talking the car up to be something it really isnt.

A seller needs to be at least somewhat educated on selling something like this...

I posted a picture of a screw missing from the center console.

That right there should say something to most people about attention to detail.

Its not about the car per say, its about what the seller says about the car.

Comments like "newly rebuilt", "low miles", "super clean", "great paint" I tend to look at as opinions.

On ebay, when someone that has been wanting a car like this for years and finally has the money, these comments can be taken the wrong way by more foolish individuals.

This car in question is misrepresented as something it isnt.

If you dont have a problem with that, I have a hyundai, I mean Porsche for sale really cheap.
 
Wow this just keeps getting better.

No grommet around the dimmer switch.
 
Claude, the whole car show judging thing depends on what type of classification you are judging. Cars that are entered into a Factory Restoration Class are, (supposedly), judged as much on correctness as they are quality of the build. In that classification, at the upper echelon, seemingly trivial things like a grommet being wrong does make a difference. The judges are supposed to know this.

Of course, that isn't always the case. There have been cars offered up on this site for evaluation that have won very prestigous awards in the Correct Restoration Class, only to be picked apart by the crew here on Chevelle Tech.

And rightly so. If you are going to present a car as being correct, then that is where the value is.

Custom Restorations are an entirly different animal. They are judged on the quality of the build, and the way the car is presented at a show. Attention to detail is paramont. Many times, the judges first impression when he walks up to the car is as important as anything.

This particular Forum concentrates a lot on value as dictated by a cars original pedigree, and how much of that original pedigree is still there. That is where the "investment" value lies. The car will always have a certain market value because of this. A matching numbers L-78 will always be that.

Custom Cars, like mine and thousands of others out there, are nothing but attractive toys that top out at a certain value regardless of what you have done. These are not investments. That is, unless you consider spending 5 times what you could ever sell the car for as an "investment".
 
Well said Jackie. It is important to not let your panties get too tightly twisted if one persons opinion is on the other side of the rainbow from yours. It is just a car and not that big of a deal. It is not about right or wrong because we basically are all in it together. Although so many cars are put under an extreme microscope it is one of the greatest teaching tools around. Books cannot duplicate it, especially when so much that has been written has been proven wrong........here.
 
"jackie schmidt", I carefully read your reply and I agree with you 100%. I enter a few car shows every year as a participant, but I'm not a judge and not interested in being one. I think our "purist" friend "69F41SS" misinterpreted what I wrote in one of my previous messages, which led him into thinking that I was a judge, but it's not the case.
Maybe I overreacted a bit the other day but I admit that I can't stand those "purists" guys who act and talk as if they hold the absolute truth and take pleasure in showing everyone their knowledge by criticizing other's cars instead of appreciating them for what they are, stock or custom. Those guys who will pass on your car because it "has the wrong grommet" like you said...Sorry, but I can't stand them. :noway:
It's true that the seller hasn't described the car accurately (which I don't agree with) but there's no 100% sure way to tell if he did it on purpose or not. But now that the facts have been straightened, can't we concentrate on the next thing, this being the car itself?
About the car, it's not perfect, but not a s**t box either!. Sure it has the wrong lighter and wipers knobs, missing a screw but these are small details that can be fixed easily. One thing a little more expensive is that it will need a new dash pad to get rid of the screws in the speaker area, but then again, it can be fixed in a matter of minutes for a few hundred bucks.
Well that's it for me! ;)
thanks,

Claude. :)
 
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