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About five years ago, I was given by a close friend of the family a 72 Chevelle that I was told was an original SS free of charge. I have always loved muscle cars and knew all the history and specs but at the time didn't know thing one about working on them. Didn't know at the time the car was a complete basket case. Listened to some bad advice from "experts" to start with(like cutting out the rusted trunk pans before having replacement pieces) that got it off on the wrong foot. Right now I'm in the middle of a frame off resto and I haven't touched the car in about a year. I'm starting to think I've bitten off more than I can chew. Blowing it apart was easy but the cost, expertise, and equipment that would be involved in restoring it are beginning to be a problem. Here is the condition:

Mechanical- Small block untouched in the garage but I have a 402bbc I bought to put in the car taken down to bare block waiting to be built. No tranny yet. 12 bolt rear end. Have the suspension back together and painted with all new rubber ready to go. Had to use a donor frame from a 70 because the original was rusted beyond fixing.

Interior- The seats are ok by and large but almost everything else needs replaced. I just redid the dash myself but the gage cluster is apart and needs going through electrically. No radio or speakers.

Body- This is the worst part. Its swiss cheese. Blasted and epoxy primed but needs new complete quarters, body mounts, trunk pan, foot wells, rear under seat, rocker repair, wheel wells front and rear, front fenders, tail panel, and a seemingly endless number of small holes blown open in blasting.

Wiring- Rat chewed and destroyed. Needs completely replaced.

Value/Numbers factor- Was told it was originally an "SS Car". Found a Vin tag replacement form in the car from the DMV. Turns out the original auto body had been switched out for a donor body at some point that was from a manual trans car. Had to replace the frame so literally nothing left of original car the vin went to. Guy I got it from claims the donor body was an SS car too not that it matters. In short this car is now a franken-chevelle.

I am about $4000 into the car at this point. I may seem like an idiot to you, but I was 22 and knew nothing about working on cars and had a bunch of people I trusted around me telling me "there's nothing that can't be fixed" and "you could build a new one out of parts if you wanted to". Of course when time came to work on the car all those guys disappeared. I am an average guy and can maybe spend $100 a month on the car if I'm lucky. I've never done body work. Never painted. Never built a motor myself but I've gotten pretty good mechanically. I don't have a big compressor or a mig welder. I have another weekend car, an 06 Mustang GT that's almost paid off, and I 'm considering selling it and the Chevelle and taking the money and getting a car that is more in complete and in my skill range. I know someone with the skills and equipment could make a great car out of this project but I'm starting to think I'm not that guy. Is it time to call it quits?
 
My answer depends upon how much time and money you have. I'm gonna guess you're about $15,000 out of having the car done well. $100/month will take you 150 months or 12.5 years. Will you be happy having $19-20k in it when you're done? If you don't have the time money or patience, I'd move on.
 
Clint Eastwood said it best.. a man has to know his limitations. Sounds like you have realized you're at our beyond yours. You will be money and time ahead to sell what you have and put it towards a running car. Do you have any pics of the shell?
 
I made a mistake a couple years ago in buying a project chevelle, needed quarters, floors, door, skins, motor tranny, interior etc.. After coming to my senses and sitting down adding up all of the cost for these things i realized this was just a bad idea, so I sold it to another dreamer and saved up some money, took out a small loan and bought a complete chevelle that only needs a Lil carb work and I still ended up cheaper then what I would have spent and I get to drive the car and not look at it in pieces everyday. Sometimes you have to look at the big picture, if you enjoy working on the car or if it has sentimental value to you I would keep it, but it sounds like you have already made up your mind.
Good luck to ya
 
Being in Ohio ,you should contact the Northern Ohio Chevelle Club and join them and then ask for some help or guidance .They are a good bunch of guys and gals and may be able to point you in a better direction.
 
What part of Ohio are you in?
 
I know money is an issue and experience . Do you have a technical school near you where you can hone your skills ? Then take on some small projects and earn some money towards finishing your project . Your still young take that $100 a month and use it to get the skills you need . I know of some guys that have done this and it made their projects go a lot easier and more enjoyable. Good luck keep in touch.
 
Its tough I know when I was younger I thought I could do alot of stuff myself but having family in the repair business showed me alot. When my first Chevelle started rusting and the frame was shot I knew that I didn't have the money and know how to fix it right. I went looking for a clean body and frame and after many years found one. I finished the car, it wasn't perfect by no means but I was happy and proud of myself. Living in Ohio its hard to find a good project but if you look around you'll find one. Luckly after selling the car I repurchased the same car and I will do everything right this time it may take awhile.
 
It's only money, metal and time ;) My 66 started out as a rusted pos laying on it's frame in a guys front yard. No interior, no engine, no transmission, no brake lines, no lights, no wheels! What it did have was a nearly untouched wiring harness, a parking brake that worked and besides the windshield, the glass was good. Also hadn't been registered for 29 years. I've been messing with it for a few years now sometimes not touching it for months at a time. Do a little bit here and there, buy parts when you can and eventually you'll be driving it like I am with mine. But, if you're not into it for the long haul, sell it and get one that's already on the road. It'll be cheaper in the long run not having to buy every single thing missing or beyond refinishing/repairing. As for those guys bailing on you and not helping out... happens to me all the time so I just don't ask anymore. 99.98% of the work done on my car has been done by my too hands and sometimes a foot or knee in the right place.
 
If you were to buy a decent running Chevelle now for $15000 or so, you could be enjoying it and thinking of modifications you want to do as you enjoy the car. If you tinker away at your current project and say in 5 years decide to just buy a runner, the cost of Chevelle's will only likely go up. Plus the cost of living is not getting any better, so it will likely be harder to buy later on. Also note, that I believe it is more expensive build a car than it is to buy a decent one.

Another thing to think about is your idea of making your dream car is very likely going to change several times as you build. If you ever read build threads and projects you will discover some amazing ideas that you will want to incorporate. Again that usually means $$$. This will likely make the current project take longer and cost a lot more than you anticipate.

If you want a car to drive now, then sell it and buy something you want. Although expect to have to put in several thousand to repair and modify it. Im sure you could eventually build the current car into something great if you so choose, but is it worth your time and money.
 
Well Bill, consider yourself luckier than most. Seeing as how you got the car for free you might be able to recoup most of your money if you decide to sell. Most guys are upside down due to paying too much for the basket case to start with.
 
It is good that you are being honest with yourself on this project. From your description and the photos, I would cut the losses now. Put it back together and make a roller out of it and sell it off. Then look for a better car. The economy is pretty weak now, so you might find a bargain out there.
 
Bill, I'm proud as hell of you after seeing the pics you posted. :thumbsup:

I think that you will find a buyer for your project that will be happy to take it to the next level.
 
FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO WHINE ABOUT A RESTORATION PROJECT, I DON'T THINK YOU HAVE A TRUE GRASP OF "RESTORATION PROJECT"!















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This is 15yrs later and almost $1M so far, and we're still looking at 2 more years and more $$$$$$$$$.
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Stick with it. Take a step back
 
Lorain, OH. Near Cleveland
I'm in Lorain too. West side off of Oberlin Ave.

Post the pics and description in the "What's it worth" forum to get an idea of what you might get for it as is. I don't think you'd get the 4k you got tied up in it, but might get close.

You should be able to find a really nice Malibu for 15k.
 
There comes a time when one has to evaluate their priorities in life. My opinion is "If its not fun, it ain't worth it". There are hi and low points in all projects and sometimes you have to muddle through until there is some enjoyment.

I'm lucky, a friend and I have buddied up on projects. We work together on each others cars and it makes it more fun and enjoyable to have the extra hands, eyes and brains, doing a project.
 
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