Nice platform for most street builds. I like that it's set up for factory hydraulic roller.

Is it going to add a lot to the pricing for you to have to go through it and blueprint everything?

 

All machined and shipped should be around 1795.00

 

Great insights! I was disappointed to hear they wouldn't be available with 400 mains for those (me) who might migrate from an existing 400 based setup. Sorry for the side track

 

Rick
With the bigger main line it will make for weaker webbing and weaker main caps.

 

BEEFY :thumbsup:

 

Plus you can allways have your crank turned down to the 350 main size.

 

Hmmm. Thanks!

 

nice, keep us posted as your work progresses.

Ditto on the debris inside the LittleM. Took a TON of it out, glad I flushed it and didnt leave it up to the machinist.Nice piece though overall.

 

If I were considering that kind of money for a small block, I would just go ahead and build an LSX based engine. And put a Procharger on it!

 

Thanks, Carl. I guess whatever the cost of resizing my Scat crank journals makes a Little M a better proposition(?)

 

We I probed the SHP block out today and I was very pleased with the lifter bore locations and the cylinder in X-location which is from front to rear were with in .001

Now the cylinders in Y-locations which is intake to exhaust we found the cylinders on the odd side to #1 was .003 out of location and cylinders #3#5#7 were .004 out.

Now cylinders #2 #4 were out of location .007 #6 was .006 and #8 was .005 out of location.

Compared to an 010 block where the worst one we have seen was .032 out of location this Dart block is a good peice.

The deck on the odd side the high measurement was 9.0259 and lowest measure was 9.0224 which is .0035 differance

The deck on the even side the high measure ment was 9.0282 and the lowest measurement was 9.0230 which is .0052

From front to rear both decks we with in .0006

Now the Ed from Edvanced engines claims the Dart blocks he buys from Dart are with in .0002 from side to side heres the link on this http://forums.racingjunk.com/viewtopic.php?t=5704&highlight= and Ed has no equipment to do his work with and I wonder how he is measuring this??? any how.

Before any one gets say anything I ask Dick at the PRI-SHOW who runs Darts machine shop about the locations being off a little and his comment was we ROUGH machine 150 blocks a week and its up to the engine builder to make sure its finished machined to blue print, If a customer wanted a blue printed block they could surely machine one but it would surely cost some extra money.

Also the cam tunnel placement was good as well.

All in all the SHP block is great foundation to start with, I was very pleased with my findings today and all we will do is dial the block in just a little closer. Compared to the 400 and 350 OEM blocks we have seen over the years the SHP block is a great peice and I can see just using a block like this you can make more power over a stock GM block. Carl

 

Question: Has Dart changed the oiling system a bit? Seems to be missing the familiar center passage directly over the cam.

 

All the Darts are opened up between the cam housing bores look a the pic second one up form the bottom, There has never been a passage over the cam bore. The older Bowtie blocks maybe.

Now thay did change the oiling in the back of the block so you can put a oil sending unit or hook your line up for the oil pressure gauge.

 

Carl,

I don't post much, but I do my share of reading (I think I am wearing the search button out). Just wanted to say thanks for taking the time to post this stuff. It is very appreciated what you and the other (wolfplace, billk, trmnatr, mike1231, cstraub, UDharold and all the others) gurus help us with.

 

Here is a little more info on the SHP block
http://gallery.barrymorrison.com/albums/userpics/10001/SHP_Brochure-1v2a.pdf