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Discussion starter · #1 ·
Mike is building me a motor and he has asked me to pick a intake.
My questions is can fit this Super vic intake under the stock hood of my 69 chevelle I know you can get different breathers and base elements but first hand Info is much better from you guys.

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ISKY RED ZONE EZX NEEDLESS SOLID ROLLER LIFTERS
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Ede Victor or Super Vic intake
Did you want the intake ported?

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Man I dont know about that , but I would not care what hood I had to put on it if mike was building it for me , or hell dont run a hood . I had a 555 ci that ran the same heads and had it in a 63 vette the car ended up running 9.13 at 148 mph crossing the lights at 7900 rpms way to much gear . I love those heads , keep us posted sounds like a monster . what compression are yall stooting for ?
 
Discussion starter · #3 ·
A Vic Jr is kinda tough to get under the stock hood, so IMO a Super Vic isnt going to happen.
 
That is definately an issue with stock 69 hoods. I have a Merlin dual plane intake with a 1/2" phenolic spacer and I had to modify the underside of hood slightly so that my 3" air cleaner didn't rub and hood would close properly. It seems those high HP engines just require to much intake for 69 hoods.
 
You can get a Vic Jr under a 69's hood with some mods to the aircleaner base and throttle linkage, along with a 3" element. Boy is it tight, but it clears.
 
Discussion starter · #7 ·
Right now my RPM can rub.I guess the million dollar question is will the jr with a port job give it the flow I'll be happy with.Or should I put a cowl hood on it too? This thing has evolved to more and more.Like MIke says "End.. what end"
 
Discussion starter · #8 ·
Now I'm confused I went back to the edlebrock site and it says the Victor and Jr both are 5.90" how is this possible.. am I missing something. All I know compared to the Rpm It's .650 higher and I'm running a stock BB air cleaner now can the base be changed to to gain this 3/4 with clearance needed . I guess the carb can come into play also.I have a BG Demond now.Do the carb heights change at all?
 
That should be a running sob! A friend of mine has the Victor Jr and had to trim some of the bracing on his hood and use a drop base air cleaner. I think he uses a 3 inch element.
 
It's gonna be a beast :D Go for the Victor Jr. (ported) and try Air filter & Thottle linkage mods mentiond above and without a doubt go for the shaft rockers or you'll probably be wishing you did if ya don't.
Your probably gonna be best off running solid motor mounts with a tight hood clearance and if it's in the budget go for some new poly body mounts. New body mounts will gain you a lot more hood clearance (at least it did on mine and running a stock hood).

Have you given any thoughts to exaust yet? I have a freind running 2-1/8" Lemons Pro Touring syle headers w/ slip on collectors on his 69 and I can tell you first hand that they are worth every cent he paid for them. All the clearances (plugs, steering shaft, oil filter, starter and ground clearance) are increadible. We had them bolted up in just under an hour, with no cussing even.

Last but not least, Welcome to the LRE Familly :beers: Your gonna be EXTEEMLY happy!!!!!
 
How soon do you need to know? Here's the deal. Have a Ede AirGap Rec Port on mine right now with a 1/2" spacer, which should net 5.75" at the carb base. Air cleaner base has been modified to provide 1.5" drop. My 14 x 3" air cleaner just lets the hood close. I am actually heading down to the shop in a few minutes to swap (attempt to swap) a TeamG single plane with a carb flange height same as the VicJr. If I can't get the hood to close, what I may end up doing is either shim the core up, possibly shim the body up and/or mod the bracing on the hood a little. Not sure yet, but will post back later today / tomorrow.
 
Hi Dwayne
First, thank you for choosing us to help with this it is appreciated :beers:

Ok,
As far as the engine goes without regard to underhood fitment,,,,
My first choice is the Ede CNC Victor or a Victor that has been fully ported for this
Second would be the Super Vic but I think the Victor is a better choice.
The Jr is a little small but will work especially if ported good.
I would like at least a 1" spacer on any but know this probably is not going to happen

One of the biggest problems with comparing height & clearance between the dual planes & these intakes is not the small height difference it is because the dual planes have the carb flange tilted & the single planes do not.
This brings the front of the carb up a ton especially out at the front of the air cleaner

Glad you posted this as I have no first hand knowledge with regard to what will actually fit & there are enough good folks here who have "been there, done that" ;)


And on your "communication request,,,,
No problem, PM it is :thumbsup:
 
The SV-1 carb. is shorter than a dominator, that may help a little. If it's enough I don't know. I spoke to Darin twice about manifolds for my 555, and asked specifically what if any intake I should run other than my R-M Victor. He said to just port the Victor, it will be fine. So my Victor is out to be ported. Thanks Mike:thumbsup:
 
Discussion starter · #15 ·
Thanks Joe I appreciate the input. Mike I'm running super comps with a perfect fit/excellent ground clearance and 2.5" exhaust all the way out just as stock was.I think the comp rockers are all I can swing at this point, the car it's self will need a lot of improvements to handle this power so money will be spent there a lot too. Also the LRE family is one I wanted to be a part of for a long time .
Hopefully I see it before the snow flies here.
 
Just up from the garage, here's the verdict. It fits - but takes a couple minor mods. Intake I am using is Weiand 7622, same height as VicJr at 5.96 frt/rr. Carb is Holley 4781 c/w choke horn. Air cleaner has 1.5" drop base and conventional Chevy domed lid. Mods I made were simple. Car has been painted, hood is on the car. Air cleaner lid will hit at three points of the bracing - two sides and the rear. Rear, I used a cut off wheel to cut two notches about 6" apart, then flattened the point down with a body hammer. Sides, you just need to flatten it very little, again, I did mine with a body hammer. Probably could have just flattened the rear point. If/when I get a chance, will probably pull the hood and trim that raised portion of the brace completely down nice and neat. If running a HP style carb (assume you will seeing as how you are looking at a SV1 (?), you might be able to run a 2" drop base and not modify the hood at all, although, 2" drop base might choke it. Will share this, I am playing with a Spectre 728 fresh air kit. Right now have the inlets ducted just below the core. Someone will chime in and flame away, but - Reason? With the bigger motor ( and in my case car has factory AC), air temps under the hood are unbearable. Motor doesn't run hot, stays a constant 180, but open that hood and it's an oven under there. May or may not help, but thoughts were it's try this to egt some lower inlet air temp in there or replace the hood wiith a cowl hood. FWIW, I did look into a cowl hood (Goodmark steel hood). It will definitely gain hood clearance, but you are left with the same issue, unless that hood is sealed, the motor still only gets air from the radiator.

Good luck with your build.
 
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