Busch lost his cool and intentionally wrecked Ron Hornaday in a high speed push during a yellow flag caution. NASCAR parked him for the rest of the weekend, no racing in either car events. About time!!!!!!
Kyle Busch finally dealt with
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Inconsistency from NASCAR again. We always do the penalty thing on Tuesday. Well, here we are Monday and penalties are published. It will be interesting to see if Mars, and JGR do anything.
Maybe shrub will fine and penalize himself, since he was driving his own truck. Naw, too much of an ego for that, I guess.
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Maybe shrub will fine and penalize himself, since he was driving his own truck. Naw, too much of an ego for that, I guess.
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yeah, add up all his endorsements and merchandising- which he had total control over.. he's one of the few athletes that actually "owned" their name at the time- and he made more money than any other athletes for a couple of years. 10 years after his death, and he's probably still selling more merchandise than anyone else in the NASCAR garage..
I like nascar dont get me wrong, but what these athletes make in a year is pathetic. That goes for all sports. I guarantee you if you were to bust them down to making say 50-75,000 a year and that their job was on the line every time they performed, their attitudes would change. If I knew what I know now and could be a top athlete I would only work for a couple of years and retire!!!! I could so live the rest of my life on what some of these guys make in a half year.
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perhaps.. but they don't work "normal" jobs and don't have "normal" contracts. they are getting paid a lot of money because a lot of people want to watch them do what they are good at and are willing to buy the products of the companies that support them, just like any other athlete or performer.
take someone like Dale Jr- i bet he'd still be driving race cars even if he wasn't popular enough and good enough to do it at the level he does it at.. his dad might have had a lot of money and influence, but he didn't give his kids much of a free ride at the beginning of their careers- in fact, his name probably worked against him because every other person at whatever local dirt track he was running at put him squarely in their sites so they could say they beat an Earnhardt.. he worked in Sr's dealership service department changing oil and doing brake jobs to pay for the crappy bomber stock cars he built when he was starting out. it's in his blood, and that's why he's out there every week. it's also why he isn't a dirty driver like Kyle is- he knows how much work actually goes into getting a car to the track and he respects how much effort his people put in to get him there every week.. that's a perspective that punks like Kyle don't have.
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looks like Busch might be in more trouble than he thought..
his sponsor, Z Line Designes, doesn't want him in the Nationwide race, and Gibbs is talking to Aric Amirola about replacing him in Cup.. M&M's apparently doesn't want to be associated with him any more, either..
maybe Robbie Gordon or some other third tier team will hire him to drive his equipment on the dates when he doesn't want to drive..
http://nationwide.nascar.com/nationwide-series/news/111110/kybusch-report-out-homestead/index.html
his sponsor, Z Line Designes, doesn't want him in the Nationwide race, and Gibbs is talking to Aric Amirola about replacing him in Cup.. M&M's apparently doesn't want to be associated with him any more, either..
maybe Robbie Gordon or some other third tier team will hire him to drive his equipment on the dates when he doesn't want to drive..
http://nationwide.nascar.com/nationwide-series/news/111110/kybusch-report-out-homestead/index.html
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M&M's is gone! Not even finishing out the season on the car. Interstate Batteries is going to be the main sponsor on the car for the last two races.
Hearing someone else may be driving the 18 for the last two also!
I wonder what Joe Gibbs plans are for next season?
Hearing someone else may be driving the 18 for the last two also!
I wonder what Joe Gibbs plans are for next season?
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Reuti's looking for a job.. he's won a couple of races and i think he's got the right temperament to fit in over at JGR.. plus he's already "in" with Toyota..
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http://www.nascar.com/news/111110/kybusch-will-race-phoenix-but-without-sponsor-mms/index.html
i wonder if Hornaday's been able to talk his way into the driver's seat of one of the start and park cars...
i wonder if Hornaday's been able to talk his way into the driver's seat of one of the start and park cars...
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I'm glad to see this d-b get what he deserves before he really hurts someone. It's time he grew up... maybe, only time will tell
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That's what they deserve to make. people vote with their wallets. its dangerous and it makes a lot of money for owners of cars/tracks/sponsors so they deserve their cut. simple. :beers:
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lol really? I have driven at Atlanta and Charlotte, granted i only did about 148mph and a total of 16 laps but i also got a ride along at 170mph. :thumbsup:
let me tell you they are skilled and they are athletes. i couldn't even imagine doing it for 500 miles at 200mph some times with 3 cars around you all inches off your fenders/quarters.
You do it and you will have a whole new respect for them. trust me. :hurray:
let me tell you they are skilled and they are athletes. i couldn't even imagine doing it for 500 miles at 200mph some times with 3 cars around you all inches off your fenders/quarters.
You do it and you will have a whole new respect for them. trust me. :hurray:
I just watched Kyle’s "apology". What a joke, he said he has "some remorse" for what he did and apologized to JBR, M&M's, Kyle Busch Racing and his peers, but no mention of Ron Hornaday himself. Kyles just trying to save what he can. Never liked him - never will.
Gald to see M&M's sent the message and hope there are more repercussions.
What I don't understand is why everyone is slamming Kyle for this when Carl Edwards wrecked Keselowski at Atlanta a couple of years ago and put him in the air and landing on the roof of his car at 190 mph. Carl was not even in the race as he has been behind the wall for many laps and only came back out to deliberately wreck Brad. Carl only got a 3 race probation. Kyle spins someone out under caution, which I admit was completely uncalled for, and everyone is all up in arms about how he should be banned from the sport and all his sponsors should drop him etc. etc. etc.
Sounds a bit hypocritical to me, just sayin'
Sounds a bit hypocritical to me, just sayin'
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I think the difference is their history. It's not an isolated incident for Kyle.
Carl was wrong to do that, but he's typically a pretty clean racer. The same can't be said about Kyle.
Kyle is no doubt an aggressive driver but I think he gets a bad rapt more often than not.
I saw this article on Nascar.com and thought it was a pretty good read. I am not a Kyle fan but recognize his talent (and his short-comings).
Edit: not sure if the link is working but google "The Shrub that stirs the drink" and you'll find it.
I can't say that Carl is clean though. I think he puts on a good show when the cameras are in his face but I feel like he is very two-faced in the garage area.
Matter of opinion and preference I suppose. If anyone should be parked for aggressive driving I think it should be Montoya....
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Kyle has earned is reputation as an idiot.. he thinks it's his destiny to fill the role of "NASCAR's bad boy".. he wrecks anyone and everyone that dares to not just get out of his way and he says it's "just racing".. but when someone accidentally bumps into him or he makes a stupid move and it bites him in the ass, then its the other guy's fault and there is whining and crying.Kyle is no doubt an aggressive driver but I think he gets a bad rapt more often than not.
I saw this article on Nascar.com and thought it was a pretty good read. I am not a Kyle fan but recognize his talent (and his short-comings).
http://www.nascar.com/news/111109/dcaraviello-kybusch-galvanizing/index.html![Image]()
Edit: not sure if the link is working but google "The Shrub that stirs the drink" and you'll find it.
I can't say that Carl is clean though. I think he puts on a good show when the cameras are in his face but I feel like he is very two-faced in the garage area.
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Matter of opinion and preference I suppose. If anyone should be parked for aggressive driving I think it should be Montoya....
yeah, i know your next line- "Dale Sr. was the same way.. yada yada yada".. but that's not true. i think the only racer that would hold a grudge against Sr for his actions on the track was Terry Labonte for what happened at Bristol, but that was just good hard racing from what i could see from my living room as i watched it happen live on tv and Sr just wanted it more than Terry did.
regarding Carl Edwards- other than that one time when he spun out Keselowski- who had it coming after the crap he was pulling in that race and for most of the season up to that point- Carl is a clean racer. he might make contact from time to time and spin people out, but that's a part of this style of racing and it's never done with malice or out of stupidity. if you don't want to see cars making contact as they fight for positions, then stay away from NASCAR and watch F1.
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I can understand these guys racing hard, rubbing and even turning another car. That is green flag racing and is what makes it interesting and fun, the few times a race is interesting and fun. Trouble is Kyle causes half of his wrecks under yellow or after the race. That's not the time to do this stuff. If he was a grown up, he would confront these other drivers after the race man to man and argue, fight or do what it takes to clear the air. Damaging equipment and risking lives under yellow is not the right way to handle it. None of these guys are saints. Edwards did cut down Kes, but it was green flag racing for a win. I blieve you will find more then one driver critical of the way Sr drove, but at least most of his stuff was under green flag. Too early to see if M&M is gone for 12, they only pulled out the last two races for this year, so far. They might be smart enough to use this as an excuse to stop sponsoring nascar. It is probably a real waste of corporate dollars to sponsor these guys. Especially one of the buschs or some of thes other guys with such big negative numbers.
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Here is a list of the worlds top paid atletes in the 1990's, compiled by Forbes magazine, these numbers include salaries, bonus', winnings, endorsements, advertising and every other source of income for pro atletes, worldwide. http://www.topendsports.com/world/lists/earnings/forbes-index.htm
At no time was Dale Earnhardt tops on this list. 94 and 95 he was around 20th, finally broke into the top 10 with 8th in 97, and 5th in 98, 9th in 99 and 6th in 2000, before falling out the listing all the way. Of course he was tops of all nascar drivers until his death, but his earnings were no where close to Jordan, Shumacher and some of the others around the top. Some of these guys were over 50 million a year.
Probably Dale JR has made more in his last 7-8 years then his father made at any time. Of course his dollars are not worth half what Sr's were.
At no time was Dale Earnhardt tops on this list. 94 and 95 he was around 20th, finally broke into the top 10 with 8th in 97, and 5th in 98, 9th in 99 and 6th in 2000, before falling out the listing all the way. Of course he was tops of all nascar drivers until his death, but his earnings were no where close to Jordan, Shumacher and some of the others around the top. Some of these guys were over 50 million a year.
Probably Dale JR has made more in his last 7-8 years then his father made at any time. Of course his dollars are not worth half what Sr's were.
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