[69chevelless3964speed]

I think the price is a little high. Are the docs real?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/LS6-...0HP-4-10-GEAR-/250998911335?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item3a70b37167#ht_1370wt_948

 

[DUTCH MAX HEADWORK]

Not sure on the authenticity of the paperwork, car was built in Kansas City, then shipped to Canada for sale. That's why Canadian paperwork exists on the car. Gotta say that's one of the cleanest pretty white build sheets I have seen in a while.

Wonder what he means about he can have an engine and trans with the car for more more money. Ir it's original to the car it wouldn't make any sense to separate them at this point. Leads me to believe the engine and trans he as is not original to the car.

136370K143341

A good place to start here, if interested, is getting your own Canadian documentation directly from the source. GM of Canada Vehicle Services.
Be nice to have the rearend codes too.

The cost to restore that car with all the LS6 specific parts would make your head spin.

 

[70SS454-75-788]

I am not an expert, but I would say the docs are real. Check the VIN on the paperwork, it matches the VIN in the 3 pictures they show. The only thing that I noticed is the seller incorrectly states made in Canada, when infact the paperwork clearly states made in Kansas City. It was then one of 231 LS6's imported to Canada. Yes you probably can fake GM of Canada docs. But since the seller shows the VIN in 3 different locations on the car I would say it is legit. That is the great thing about Canadian docs. I would like to know more about the other tag that is attached to the VIN on the cowl though.
John

 

[1972convss454]

The CON VIN's do not match the VIN tag???

 

[RixLS6]

The CON VIN's do not match the VIN tag???

I think he was meaning to say that the body number on the cowl tag should match the number on the buildsheet.

 

[DUTCH MAX HEADWORK]

I think he was meaning to say that the body number on the cowl tag should match the number on the buildsheet.

Box 8 appears to be a match...Given poor res pictures.

The numbers above the dash VIN are part numbers for the piece that the numbers are stamped on.

The great thing about Canadian Doc's is being able to verify them on you own with just a Vin.

 

[lrdvdr41]

I emailed him. The engine and trans are not original. I don't think he speaks English very well, based on the email I received.

 

[DUTCH MAX HEADWORK]

The bidder that is running up the price has had 26 bid retractions in the last 6 months.
He also has bids on a ton of various other vehicles.

 

[Dave Birdwell]

It's real, just not worth $30k. Maybe $12-15k depending on the condition of the body...

 

[DUTCH MAX HEADWORK]

I emailed him. The engine and trans are not original. I don't think he speaks English very well, based on the email I received.

That's a shame right there. I mean about the engine and trans not being original.

Dave, it's on a reserve auction. No telling the reserve. The bids appears to be being pushed up...possibly artificially????

 

[DaleM]

He does have a few facts wrong but without paying another $80 to GM of Canada to verify this one as well (been there, done that with the other KC LS6), I think it's good.

There were 231 Malibu sport coupes imported into Canada but not all were LS6 cars, the 231 number is for SAME MODEL ONLY according to other GM of Canada docs, nothing to do with being an LS6 much less either SS option. As noted above, it's a KC buildsheet and not a Canadian buildsheet.

I know where he got the magazine page being held up, I have the same one from an old Car Craft. Can't match that car after restoration since the one on the magazine page has a black vinyl top that this one doesn't call for. Ad copy leads one to think he has the engine and transmission but I really wonder if it's the one for this car. It may be worth the $30K WITH the original driveline but no where near it without it, IMO. Right now it's pretty much a basket case without any real intrinsic value.

 

[BigBlockBeaumont]

There were 231 Malibu sport coupes imported into Canada but not all were LS6 cars, the 231 number is for SAME MODEL ONLY according to other GM of Canada docs, nothing to do with being an LS6 much less either SS option. As noted above, it's a KC buildsheet and not a Canadian buildsheet.

Under what conditions would they have needed to import the 231 cars into Canada, besides LS6 or L78 cars? Just curious if anyone has cdn docs for any other 70 Malibu sport coupes imported?

 

[DaleM]

Under what conditions would they have needed to import the 231 cars into Canada, besides LS6 or L78 cars? Just curious if anyone has cdn docs for any other 70 Malibu sport coupes imported?

This is a quote from George about that.

Reply from Mr. George Zapora of GM of Canada on 9/24/2008 indicates that the 231 figure shown for imported V8 Malibu sport coupes is not solely for LS6 optioned Chevelles. To quote, "But due to production constraints some Chevelles/Malibus/whatever could be sent from the U.S. to Canada if we were running short of a low volume option or at build out time to fill orders, so not all of those imported cars are necessarily LS6's."

 

[trips67chevelle]

At least its got that ''COOL INJECTION HOOD'' i got a laugh out of that.

 

[Andy69]

stupid people shouldn't be allowed to post auctions

 

[mr 4 speed]

stupid people shouldn't be allowed to post auctions

or vote..or get elected to office


I agree with Mr. Birdwell on the price.

 

[1972convss454]

I think he was meaning to say that the body number on the cowl tag should match the number on the buildsheet.

The CON VIN on the fire wall is: 0K143441
The VIN is: 0K143341

They do not match.

 

[RixLS6]

The CON VIN on the fire wall is: 0K143441
The VIN is: 0K143341

They do not match.

Yeah, you're right.
I wonder if it is a factory goof or?????????????????

 

[1972convss454]

The car looks correct.
I have seen a 70 Flint built Monte Carlo with a different CON VIN under the heater box. It was total off, not even close. This one seems it could have been a mistake, at least on somenes part.

 

[70SS454-75-788]

Just wanted to explain why I assumed that the 231 on the docs was for LS6s. I own a Oshawa built 70 Chevelle. On the sellers docs it states:
Number Imported for sale in Canada no number
(Same Model No. Only) 231
On my docs it states:
Number Produced for U.S. sale in Canada 25,938
(Same Model No. Only) (299 with LS5 & Z/15; 1,750 with ZL2)
Since the 231 was straight across from the same model no. only, just like my 299, I assumed it ment LS6s. I thought it seemed logical that since Canada exported nearly 26,000 model 13637 Malibu-2dr sport coupes to the U.S. with trim levels ranging from Malibu to LS5 SS, that the only models they would need to import would be the ones they did not build. I say models now because I am not sure if they built L78s, so they could be included in the 231. The only GM of Canada docs I have seen for U.S. built cars imported to Canada have been for LS6s and they all show the number 231. I would like to see docs for a non LS6 car to see if they also show 231. I am not trying to disput anyone or anything. Just trying to see if we could prove it either way. As I said I am not an expert and these are just my assumptions of I have read.
Thanks, John