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HELP!!! Should I trade it?

3.8K views 36 replies 19 participants last post by  tricketson  
#1 · (Edited)
I was approached with an interesting trade for my 64SS and need some input and opinions. Here is a link to photos of my car. I don't have any of the vehicle I'm considering trading for.

http://s1204.photobucket.com/albums/bb409/tricketson/

Original pwr pac 283 engine and rear TH350 tranny and edelbrock carb. Car has about 100,000 miles on it. Original interior (needs seat covers only). Car runs great and has been my daily driver now for 3 years making countless 300to 400 mile trips in a single day returning about 22 mpg and never giving me a seconds trouble. As you can see, the car is an excellent restoration candidate. I paid $1,300 for the car 8 years ago and have replaced the suspension and brake system.

I was approached by a gentleman who has a 76 Corvette with under 100,000 original miles. It is a Red L82 with black interior and is fully loaded including an automatic (I would prefer a 4spd) and has been in his family for the past 20 years. The exterior is in outstanding condition while the interior shows some wear but is serviceable and presentable. Car runs and shifts like new. I know 76's aren't as desireable as other models but I was in high school from 76 to 80 so mid 70's to early 80's vettes where what we dreamed of then and this one is the right color.

I truly LOVE my Chevelle, but, I've always wanted a vette (I'm 48) but had long ago had decided I would never be able to afford one. Now this one crops up!

Two ways of looking at this.

The owner of the vette admitted my car was probably worth a grand or so more (I would basically agree) than his car and has no $$ to pony up with his car. From this view, I would be trading down.

On the other hand, I only have about $2,000 wrapped up in the Chevelle and it has been my daily driver for 3 years and about 35,000 very enjoyable miles. It has certainly paid for itself several times over. From this view point, it seems like a pretty good swap.

While I drive my car daily, it has some surface rust and needs/will need restoration work to save it. The Vette is a VERY nice looking car and would need only seat covers to make it look like it did in about 1978 or so. It would replace the Chevelle as my daily driver and with a/c would probably be more comfortable for the long drives I regularly make for work.

I planned to start restoration of the Chevelle after my Firebird is done but I also have a Mach1 Mustang waiting for restoration.

76 is the last year the name "Stingray" appeared on the Vette. It is an L82 not the base L48 and was built in the nations Bicentennial year. 1976 was a record breaking year for vette sales partially due to an increase in horsepower. I've reviewed values of vettes over the years and they seem to hit a low before they begin climbing again. The 76 values have been slowly raising for the past 5 years or so and I believe the 76 will probably outperform others in the same era for the reasons I mentioned.

While I'm into cars not money, I can't make irresponsible financial decisions based on emotions or let those emotions cloud my financial judgement. Comparing my Chevelle and the money it would cost to bring it's condition up to par with the Vette, it looks like a good trade as far as long term investment is concerned...assuming the 76 Vette follows other year model Corvettes in their historic value paths.

I'm supposed to go take a closer look at the Vette on Sunday. I lost a night's sleep last night mulling it over and would truly appreciate any input you would care to offer.

Thanks,
Tom
64SS
 
#34 ·
I hate when people can not be honest. I was going to trade a car for a 50 Buick in Texas. The owner was being real deceptive in conversations and photos were always small and lacking detail. A member here that lived a few miles away went and checked it out for me and it was pretty much the same as you found today.
He saved me the hassle of driving 2 days and coming home with the same car.
 
#35 · (Edited)
tricketson said:
I'm not quite sure where the official start of the Tail begins.

Yeah, I gathered that.
It just caught my eye when I read your post because the "Tail of the Dragon" is just so well known to anyone in my state with a motorcycle. It's about an hour and a half from you, 11 miles long and starts at Deal's Gap at the N.C./Tenn border and ends at Tabcat Bridge in Tennessee.
Tail of the Dragon
I've driven the entire length of 129, and there's nothing on that road that compares to that 11 mile "Dragon's Tail." In fact, I've never seen anything like it anywhere. 318 curves in 11 miles. That 11 mile stretch is the #1 motorcycle road in the United States...bar none.

Speaking of the "Dragon's Tail," here's some video entertainment for everyone, it's being taken from a van and there's a group of Harleys following behind, eventually one of the Harley riders thinks he has enough of a stretch of road to pass the van, but ends up going over the side.
When I watch this I have to laugh when I hear the front passenger in the van tell the driver..."Dude, they're gonna beat our a**es...go, get out of here."



-Greg
 
#37 ·
Yeah, I gathered that.
It just caught my eye when I read your post because the "Tail of the Dragon" is just so well known to anyone in my state with a motorcycle. It's about an hour and a half from you, 11 miles long and starts at Deal's Gap at the N.C./Tenn border and ends at Tabcat Bridge in Tennessee.
I've driven the entire length of 129, and there's nothing on that road that compares to that 11 mile "Dragon's Tail." In fact, I've never seen anything like it anywhere. 318 curves in 11 miles. That 11 mile stretch is the #1 motorcycle road in the United States...bar none.

Hi Greg,
I'm suprised that the official start of the Tail is over an hour from my home. I guess time flys when you're having so much fun. Needless to say, I took it easy in my truck pulling a boat but I have a blast in my cars on it. My TR7 is an easy car to have fun in, my Firebird and Chevelle are much more challenging on the course! I'm one of the lucky ones since 129 is the road that we take to visit family in Maryville so we are on it fairly often.

Unfotunately, I had 4 friends killed in bike accidents in high school...All little old ladies running them down at stop lights in Caddy's or Lincolns. I've always liked them but have always had a bit of fear of riding them. I love bikes but have no trust for some of the idiots that don't know how to drive when around them. LOOK TWICE...BIKES ARE EVERYWHERE.

I hate when people can not be honest. I was going to trade a car for a 50 Buick in Texas. The owner was being real deceptive in conversations and photos were always small and lacking detail. A member here that lived a few miles away went and checked it out for me and it was pretty much the same as you found today.
He saved me the hassle of driving 2 days and coming home with the same car.
Tom, there are a lot of deceitful, dishonest people around, and a good percentage of them sell cars at one time or another.

Look at it this way, at least you were close enough that you could easily inspect it first hand. Some people rely on pictures and don't realize they were dealing with someone dishonest until the car is shipped to them.

-Greg
I don't understand why this guy would outright lie about the condition of a car considering he knew I was comming to look at it. I described my chevelle down to the last ding and rust spot.

I've purchased cars on both ebay and auto trader. I've never sent 1 red cent, not even a deposit, to anyone . I got on a plane and few to Indy to buy my wifes wagon and 3 days after leaving the hospital for major abdominal surgery rode ( I could not drive) over 100 miles one way to trailer home my Mach1. My TR7 came from ebay as well. In all cases, I laid my eyes on the car beore any cash was exchanged.

I would guess about 95% of "car guys and girls" are very honest and provide very honest descriptions of their cars.

I'm going to continue my research on vettes. Based on how tight the interior of the t-top car was yesterday, I belive I'll limit my search to convertibles and a 4 speed will be required.

I knew I would be trading down even if the Vette had been in excellent condition and was willing and able to make that trade down but only for a car in much better condition than my Chevelle is now. This Vette came nowhere near my Chevelle's condition.

At the risk of sounding like a broken record...or skipping CD for our younger members:D I want to thank everyone again for all the input I received on this thread. It was all appreciated and proved to be invaluable.

Tom
64ss
 
#36 · (Edited)
tricketson said:
paint job with overspray all over...an aftermarket carb, air cleaner, and valve covers...which leaked...drivers side floor board had rotted out...the interior was in...trashed condition.

Tom, there are a lot of deceitful, dishonest people around, and a good percentage of them sell cars at one time or another.

Look at it this way, at least you were close enough that you could easily inspect it first hand. Some people rely on pictures and don't realize they were dealing with someone dishonest until the car is shipped to them.

-Greg