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Help! car won`t sell...how come?

5.1K views 33 replies 24 participants last post by  Xtreme70SS396  
#1 ·
Hi Guys,
I have what I think is an exceptional 65 Elky for sale in the classifieds. I also have it posted on another site and I have not received a single inquiry about the car. Would you take the the time to view the ad and tell me why my car won`t sell. If you think it is priced too high or it`s not cool, or it`s the wrong color, whatever, please share your straight up opinion. Please be sure to click on the link at the bottom of the page for tons of pics. On the photobucket page also go to page 2 for more pics of the Elky.
If you want look, at all the other pics for some of my junk......48 chopped top Ford, 41 Willys, 57 T bird. Thanx, Bob Myers
 
#2 ·
El Camino`s are a hard sell anytime. Looks like a nice car. Color is not for everyone and probably not the best seller. I would not have put the 2 colors together myself, but then thats me. You liked it and that matters until you try to sell it. JMHO
 
#4 ·
Looks like a nice car - I can't speak for the price, I don't know. But I'd bet it just needs to have the right person see it.

Comments:
Paint looks pretty cool - but it's different, and may not be for everyone.
No thumbnail right at the ad - could make a difference in having people take an initial look.
The link to pics has all kinds of stuff with the El Camino. What's part of the ad, what's not? ALL the pictures at the link in the ad should be only for the El Camino IMO.
Not sure I like the words "Pro Tour" in the ad, it may hurt more than help.

Nice car for sure - again, I think you just need to wait for the right person to come along.
 
#5 ·
Don't see any link to an ad or pictures, but read in the above posts of two tone and different paint scheme. First thing I think when I look at anything besides a nice single color paint job is how much work will I have to do to re-paint. I would hate to buy a car and know up front that I need to spend another thousand or two and a few months of work to re-paint. I also see the words pro street used. if this is a pro street car, it is a trend from the past and not much in demand today. That can really hurt sales opportunities.
 
#7 ·
I also see the words pro street used. if this is a pro street car, it is a trend from the past and not much in demand today.
LOL, like I said - the words "Pro Tour" might hurt more than help.
 
#8 ·
It looks well enough done. The color combo doesn't do much for me. But like has been said. Sometimes you just have to wait for the right buyer to come along. This also is not the best ecomomy to be trying to sell a car in. Espicially one that will be more a toy than a daily driver.
 
#9 ·
From where I sit, the color is not helping and the price is high for an EL Camino. You might get that for a Chevelle but not an Elco. Your location isn't helping either. It's easy to put more money into a vehicle than you can get out of it.
 
#11 ·
It looks nicely done but some things to consider...

- Priced too high, in reality you might get something in the teens. El Camino's don't command big bucks no matter how much money you put into it. Personally, if I were going to spend that kind of money I'd rather buy a nice SS Chevelle.

- El Camino's are not as popular Chevelles so you have limited group of buyers out there

- Yours is seriously customized, 2 tone paint, etc, it is tougher to find a buyer who will have the same taste

- The economy downturn or recession and outrageous gas prices aren't helping either

- Put some pic's in the ad itself, some people skip over ads without pics, won't even take the time to read the ad or click the link

Hang in there. When you price it right it'll sell, everything does.
 
#13 · (Edited)
I agree with everything he said....
It looks like a nice car- but its just not a $25k car.

I'd remove some of those undercarrage photos- They don't do anything to help sell the car.
Everytime I see that Gloss Black POR15 stuff on an undercarrage it makes me think its hiding rust... weather it is rusty or not, buyers will be thinking the same thing.

For the kind of money you are asking, you should take some time to get GOOD high quality photos of the outside of the car from all the different angles, instead of just a handful of driveway pics.

In the ad- let the car speak for itself, leave out the unnecesarry details. Someone willing to pay what $25k for the car will know the right questions to ask.
 
#12 ·
Thanx guys, keep it coming. I really appreciate the candid {ouch] input. I took out the "pro tour, I can`t get my pics to load in the classified, I get a input. message "file too big". I can`t seem to drag any over from photobucket either, so I`m basically screwed there.
For my info. why is "pro tour:" a downer? About the color, the pics don`t do it justice and I like it so much if it never sells because of it, I`m totally ok with that. It was totally black for 6 years and I wanted brighter.
Again, thanx, I would enjoy more critique. Bob m.
 
#18 ·
I took out the "pro tour, For my info. why is "pro tour:" a downer?
It's not a downer, it just detracts from the car speaking for itself. You've already seen someone here confuse it with "Pro Street".

If someone is not familiar with "Pro Touring" - and I think different people may have a different idea of what it takes - they will only know it's a modified car. I don't think anything that yells modified will help pull in buyers.
 
#17 ·
I like the color and the way the car was built, but I do not have $25k. What are the seats and console from? They fit the interior really well.
 
#19 ·
You asked for brutally honest, so here it comes...

I don't want to sound like I'm taking anything away from what you have there. It is absolutely gorgeous, a first class build, and every detail looks to be done RIGHT,, no 1/2@$$ anything I can see anywhere! So take my opinion with a grain of salt. It's just an opinion.


The paint scheme is gorgeous, but it's definately not my cup of tea
The infusion of leather and modern interior / seating is classy, but not my cup of tea
detailing everywhere on that chassis is rolling perfection, but that's something your into, not me.
What am I saying.... it's like when you go to the car shows and see the perfection, hours and hours of spit and polish, TONS of money spent on a project like a Volkswagon camper buss, or the perfect restoration of a 1947 gum-ball machine. You have to stare and admire all the hard work that went into creating this beautiful machine,, BUT,, it's someone elses dream, the perfect finish to the vehicle YOU wanted. Customs will always be a matter of personal taste. That is going to DRAMATICALLY limit your market, and hurt the bottom dollar. As boring as it may be to some, a letter perfect restoration of an original (anything) is always going to bring more $'s than a custom. Why??? becasue it's YOUR dream and not exactly how someone else might customize it. That's why were seeing these rediculous prices for cars rolling across the Barrett-Jackson block. The purist are paying so much for an original / restoration because THAT is something everyone can identify with.

As for $'s.....
I didn't even see what you were asking for it, but..... Throw all of your labor away, and if you get $0.50 on the dollar invested in making this beautiful machine, you'll be doing good. I don't care how it was built, finished or perfectly customized, you'll never get anything close to what you have invested. I have not known one person that 'made' money building one of these cars. It's just the nature of things. We invest our heart and soul, tons of cash, and someone comes along and offers us peanuts for our dreams. If you want to get a GREAT deal on a project, buy someone elses unfinished dream. That truely is just penny's on the dollar.

You may want to reach through the keyboard here and choke the living $#!+ out of me, but......... The one thing I see that may bring more people to the table to talk,,, a repaint. I know,,, you have this beautiful custom two tone paint and I'm saying cover it up!! (OUCH). But a nice solid color (nothing to flashy and nothing too boreing) will help move the car at a better price. More people will be able to identify with a solid color,, even more so if you choose one of the factory colors for that year. GM spent a LOT of money and research testing what people liked on that model. Of course that was in the 60's and our eye and preferances have changed. But were right back to that 'what will your buying market identify with'.

So there's my brutal opinion. Please don't punch holes in the computer screen, or send hate mail. I'm just offering my own experience with vehicles I've built that I probably couldn't give away for $0.10 on the dollar. But ya know what,, I did then MY way and I enjoyed the build, and driving them when I was done. All I can say is it is a VERY expensive hobby!
 
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#21 ·
Now that I see the pix, it is a beautiful car and you or who ever built it has done a great job. I would think solid black would help sell, as nice as the paint is, it is a matter of personal tastes and you are probably lucky if more then 1 in 20 guys would even consider a two tone paint scheme.

Obviously a nice stock interior would interest a lot more people, but with a repaint of black, maybe the interior wouldn't hold it back too much.

As has been said before, it's too much away from stock to have a lot of people want to own it. They will appreciate it, but just not want it in their garage.

Great car, but I think anything over $16,000-$18,000 would be a good price. Maybe if you were in southern California, it would do better!

Be glad you didn't put a roll cage in it, tub it, put big tires under it and cut the bed up!
 
#22 ·
We have an el Camino for sale too. MarvD pretty well hit the nail on the head. It's a very limited market and there are a lot of cheap el Caminos out there. You either panic and sell cheap or hold on for that one guy who falls in love with your car. Personally, I like el Caminos and If I wasn't trying to cut down the inventory, I'd be more than glad to keep ours. A friend of mine appraises old cars for insurance purposes and he has a '65 el Camino as well. He said about the same thing as MarvD.
 
#23 ·
Someone with a Harley-Davidson collection or a Halloween collection may purchase your El Camino.
I see the Seats as NOT matching either Color scheme, there4 they appear to not blend in which may or not be hampering the sale and they appear to be from a different Model altogether.
With the prices of High Test, that alone could be a reason for no attention.
I agree with another here that $25K for a well restored and kept ORIGINAL is appealing.
Why sell it??
Driving it would advertise it better especially at the impromptu (Weekend rolls, Burger joints, etc.) events and organized Car Shows (in the extra modified-non survivor category).

I hope you are able to sell it yet I doubt you'll get $24.5k!!
 
#24 ·
First off, I think it's a great car. Wish mine was half as nice. If you really need to get that much for it, you need to get it listed with Barrett-Jackson. If you can take less you might try listing it on your local Craigslist.
http://sd.craigslist.org/

Last year I was getting offers of 15k for mine, Now that were in a recession, I would have a hard time getting 5k for it. Hang onto it for a year or so and you can most likely get what you want for it. Good luck.
 
#25 ·
I asked Dean, the El Camino moderator, to move this thread from El Camino to the pro touring forum. The replies I received from there were interesting , informative and appreciated, but I get the impression those folks definitly do not like modified cars. Could you check out the car and offer any advice, comment, critisims? thanx, Bob Myers.
 
#29 ·
Bob, I had a survey on this site and on Lateral-G for paint color and wheel choices, with 4 total choices. The responses from this site were opposite of the pro-tour g-machine site. The Chevelle guys seem to prefer the more stock-looking old school look as compared to a more modern look, bigger wheels, etc.

There is nothing wrong with that. I myself am torn as I like both. I think you have a real nice car. I went with a solid color as the two-tone paint has a much smaller appeal in my opinion, even though it looks very good on many cars. I think you'll either need to wait it out, or drop the price to get some interest. Accepting trades is a great idea, if you don't need all the cash and have interest in having another car.

Jody
 
#26 ·
First of all, it is a nice car.

However, on my eyes (and I may be crazy) it is a bit mismatched. For example you have an over the top paint job(not really a bad thing), nice wheels, and a nice stance, all of which gives off the feeling of a pro-touring car. Upon further inspection the chassis and suspension is relatively stock and does not utilize the parts that are available these days.

Also, the interior is relatively classy (I do like the fitment of the seats), however, more suitable for an all black car.

Lastly, the engine compartment. You have like 3 different looks going on in there! For example, the belts/pulleys set-up is stock, the radiator and shroud is more functional/pro-touring, and the engine chrome is dress-up. And then you see the master cylinder and start thinking resto mod.

It is a nice car but it does not fit any one single category(not the first time El Caminos have been faced with this situation). It lacks a certain flow. The price may be too high because when I look at cars I think of how much work it would take to get a car to flow just right, this one is unfortunately in between so many looks, it would take quite a bit of work to get it where I would want it. I am not saying that no one will buy it, I believe anything is sellable if the right buyer comes along.

The biggest pro going is even if someone like me looked at the car, there is no getting around the fact that it is driveable meaning if someone wanted to change the direction of style, they could do it slowly but surely and not have to worry about the car being out of service for long intervals. It is a very VERY good start if someone wanted to make changes!

Good Luck!:thumbsup:
 
#27 ·
I agree with everything said and think a certain amount of reality is required.

If it were a chevelle, pick any year, and the paint were a solid color that matched the interior I do not think it would bring the asking price. Two killers: SB and Modified. Custom work is so personalized that when on the market it attracts only limited attention unless it is at a fire sale price. When one maintains a more original profile and is painted a safe color it becomes more appealling to the masses. Even then the recapture % of investment falls. With all this working against you it is an Elky and that only makes the situation tougher.

I might try trading for something you may not take as big a hit on. There are a lot of low mile Harleys that have not worked out for their owners. So many inexperienced riders have bought these things, many without their wives permission. They may look at yours and envision all the money invested and see a way to bail themselves.

It is tough out there now trying to sell anything. Most of the buyers are looking for a low ball deal and the ones that might pay real value are too strapped.
 
#28 ·
Well I love the car and would love to have it even though I am not a big Elky fan. Thats how much I think of your car but with the economy what it is anyone looking to buy a muscle car are going to be finiky. I love the paint and wanted to do something like that to my car but when it came down to it I went with black (my lust color lol). Not that I want to think about resell when I am building a car but if I NEED to sell it fast black will help. I also went with white SS stripes instead of silver like I wanted. I admit the white stripes would look better with my white interior.

Maybe the above poster is right. Try trading it with someone who wants your car but maybe not the cash to buy it then sell his car. I always wanted a 70 Camaro. I traded my Chevelle for a smoking hot one. He thought he could sell my Chevelle faster. He wound up missing his Camaro and I missed my Chevelle so after a year we traded back and I got a new Demon carb, new exhaust, gas tank, rear bumper, 17 inch TT II's and a ton of fit and finish improvements. I just missed my Chevelle and that Camaro rode like a tank lol. All that aside he was right. He got way more offers for the Chevelle and lucky for me a few had to back out at the last moment for finance reasons.
 
#30 ·
The first thing that came to my mind, and it appears others as well, was Harley Davidson. Just a thought, but why not put it on ebay with "Harley Davidson" in the ad. Maybe you'll get a Harley guy to buy it?? If not, with Harley in the title you will definitely get more hits on searches and increase your visibility.

If you're willing to trade for ??, put that in your ad.
 
#31 ·
Hi Guys,
Thanx for all the input, as a result of your help I have decided to keep my car. In my opinion amateur pictures like mine do not do justice to a really nice car. I think I was trying to test the market as much as anything. The car drives as well as it looks and has just the right sound and I really couldn`t be happier with it.
As a side bar, as a result of all your help and comments I have got to know a really good shrink, but my insurance benefits are about to run out...just kidding. Bob Myers.