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Help 69 4 speed value

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#1 ·
I have a Alum Muncie 4 speed trans that came out of 69 El Camino. 17 years ago it was rebuilt and sealed by Artt Carr trans. I put it back in the car and drove it about 7 k miles. Its been out of the car for years and years now.
I need to sell it and was wondering WIW. there are some numbers on it. Left side of main body across the top edge of trans 3925650.
Left side P9E26B and another that includes part of the VIN 919Z357034
 
#6 ·
My advice would be to know for certain what you have, do your homework (search this site for muncie i.d.) and use this info to your advantage as much as possible when you list this item for sale.. You may in fact have a very desirable piece for a numbers resto project. Are you certain its an m21? Check the numbers you have and compare. Do you still have rect's from rebuild? It will have part#'s and good info. I have 3-m21's, 1 for BB chevelle- 1970, 1-for BB camaro-1970 and 1-for 1965 corvette. Values- 500.00- 1,200.00, trannys only. Clean it up, replace any seals if needed (storage-shrink) and list it in places with the most amount of exposure. Good Luck!
 
#7 ·
I never said it was an M 21. I dont think I could be that lucky.
In the first post I listed all the numbers I could find on it But after looking again is see 3952648 on the side cover and on the tail shaft 3857584 GM as well as a 10 5 on the left side of trans main body about mid level.
The shifter is on it too and I think I have a bell housing somewhere. I like Shane's Idea.
 
#8 ·
I really hate to thread jack but it is basically on the same topic....how much are stock muncie 4-speeds out of a 70 ss Chevelle going for? I have a line on getting a 70ss that needs a resto, with a 350 and muncie 4-speed for $600 more than without the engine and trans....worth buying them or not worth it? Thanks and once again sorry
 
#10 ·
But the "B" code only reflects what the transmission was originally, from GM... Even if it was only rebuilt the one time, common practice (17+ years ago) was to use whatever parts were good. If the case had any wear/damage, its likely that a shop, with their reputation on the line, would find/use a "good" replacement case without regard to keeping/using the original case.

I think those values sound like reasonable/typical "asking prices" for selling a nice, but used, Muncie, and add $100-$200 for a bellhousing and shifter (IMO)... A pro/rebuilder probably won't pay that much for what could be a core, but the general public just might...

But, you need to open it up (most buyers will want it open for inspection anyway), check the tooth angles (M20/M21 or M22), check the ratio so you know what you have and what you are selling...

I doubt the "Art Carr" connection will bring anything, since it was so long ago, and its been used... Its just another shop that has more of a reputation for automatics.

Briou said:
how much are stock muncie 4-speeds out of a 70 ss Chevelle going for? I have a line on getting a 70ss that needs a resto, with a 350 and muncie 4-speed for $600 more than without the engine and trans....worth buying them or not worth it? Thanks and once again sorry
First, are you sure the transmission is really for a '70SS? I only ask, because the 350 was NOT available in the '70SS (396/402 and 454 ONLY)... So if the engine was changed, then maybe the trans was too...

Are you sure its really a 350? Really a Muncie? Lots of sellers think that any small block is a 350 and any 4-speed is a Muncie... Know what you are looking at, before you buy; Take pictures, spend some time on the internet learning about the looks and the casting numbers, etc...

If its a 350/Muncie combo, in good, usable condition, then its probably worth the $600 (and I'd try to negotiate down on the whole package anyway)...

IF its really a Muncie from a "70SS", then you need to do some further investigation... Use the previous mentioned values as a starting point ($400, $600, $1200)... If the transmission originally belonged to THAT same '70SS, then its almost priceless (and $600 would be a steal, as long as its decent condition...).
 
#13 ·
Yeah made a mistake in reading the ad...it says "350hp, muncie,...." So there is really no telling in what it is. I plan on buying the body and frame anyway for my resto mod plans....may pick up the engine and trans depending on how they look....thanks for the help and sorry for thread jacking....