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How accurate are these things really?? How exactly do they work?? I tried reading they're website, but doesnt tell ya anything about how it gets your HP/TQ, 60foot, 1/4 mile(how does it measure a 1/4 mile??)
Anyone have it??
 
I had one a few years back....As long as you put in the correct weight of your car...They seem to be pretty accurate.

Only thing to remember...The G-Tech Displays your 1/4 mph as it would be at the end of the 1/4...When you go to the track...They average your mph over the last say 100ft...(Cant remember the exact # off hand)...So the Et you get on the g-tech will be very close...But the meter will always display a higher mph than you would see at the track.

Hope that helps some...

Shawn
 
The GTech/Pro uses a linear accelerometer to measure fore and aft acceleration. Side to side acceleration is measured by turning the unit 90 degrees. Using values for acceleration and basic physics, it can determine both velocity and distance traveled. This is how it is able to return 0-60 times and 1/4 times without being hooked into the vehicle speedometer. It's actually similar to the guidance systems of some missles which measure acceleration to figure out where they are, and adjust accordingly. Link

There are two differences between drag strip timing and GTech acclerometer measurement. The first difference is at the starting line. The 1/4 mile timing equipment allows a rolling start. The GTech is an instant start when the car moves the time starts. The second, as Shawn stated, is the trap speed. The 1/4 mile timing equipment calculates mph over the last 66ft of the 1/4 and Gtech figures the instant mph at the finish line.

Out of curiosity we used a Vericom (same principle at GTech) at the drag strip. As a rule of thumb the Vericom produced a slower et than the timing equipment. The et difference in the instant start of the Vericom compared to the rolling start of timing equipment could be as much as 2/10 depending on the launch of the car and how shallow the car was staged.

The mph of the Vericom was higher than that of the timing equipment. The difference was dependant on the car. Cars that were still accelerating hard had a larger difference than those that had peaked and the acceleration had leveled off.

The GTech/Vericom accelerometer type measurement in itself is accurate. Any error is mostly user induced. ie The meter not correctly mounted. The meter not being placed in the exact same location from the previous time. Road texture, hills bumps, or an incline or a decline. Incorrect information such a vehicle weight entered into the meter.

When correctly used the GTech can be a valuable tool in measuring differences in performance/vehicle changes.
 
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Alright, thanks guys!! What about HP and TQ??I was told the V-tech can get your HP within 3-5HP. But would it be giving you Rear wheel HP?
 
Do the newer GTech models (esspecially the lower-priced model) also record 1/8-mile times/speeds? Or will they record runs of less than 1/4 mile?

In an ad, it shows "1/8" on the screen, but not sure if thats the upper-end model...

I'd like to get one of these for tuning, practice, etc... But doing a full 1/4 mile run anywhere around here is not too safe...

I figured if I could base my data off 1/8 mile, then I could actually use the freeway on ramp...
 
Racing said:
When correctly used the GTech can be a valuable tool in measuring differences in performance/vehicle changes.
I agree. I used a Vericom to set up my Camaro many years ago. I didn't really expect it to be accurate, but for my purposes I was more interested in consistent readings rather than the actual numbers. It was way easier to find the right jets, timing etc with the Vericom than using the old seat-of-your-pants method.

Then I took the car to the strip and got some "real" times, and the ET's out of the Vericom were actually within 1/10 or less. Whenever I start racing again, I'm definitely get a Vericom, GTech or similar instrument. IMO, the best use for it is not to get actual ET's, trap speeds, HP etc. but it's an excellent tool for tracking changes while you're setting up the car. And even if you have to take the actual numbers with a grain of salt, it was fun to be able to read the rear wheel HP. :thumbsup:
 
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Yeah, Im pretty much interested in being able to tune my car with it, and see what difference things like traction bars, and Exhaust changes make.
Ive also heard from a number of people not that if you dont have it set up just right, then it will be all over the place, I guess your numbers have to be accurate, and it has to be set up in the right place. Hopefully Santa will drop one off..hehe
 
Chevelle Dude said:
Ive also heard from a number of people not that if you dont have it set up just right, then it will be all over the place, I guess your numbers have to be accurate, and it has to be set up in the right place.
The Vericom I used (which was one of the first models) was just an integrated clock and accelerometer, with software that calculated ET's, speed etc as a function of acceleration and time. The instructions said that the instrument needed to be mounted straight and level with the car, as the reading was done straight with the instrument and not in the direction of the car's movement. I don't know if later models have any kind of auto-levelling or directional features, but you'll more than likely have to mount it very carefully to be sure that you get consistent readings. It wasn't difficult to do though, I just centered it on the windshield to get it aligned with the car, and used a small plumbing level to adjust it to a perfectly horizontal position.

The actual location shouldn't really matter, but as you want to be able to see it and reach it, you'll probably find that the center of the windshield is the best place.
 
Chevelle Dude said:
I guess your numbers have to be accurate, and it has to be set up in the right place.

There isn't much to set up..you plug it into your cigarette lighter,level the unit,set it and go.
I have data for over 20 runs with the unit.It is nowhere near accurate,but if do an average on the ET from the unit vs. the timeslip it ends up reading about .15 to .20 too quick..and forget the MPH.This is an average taken from 22 runs..if you do an average with say 10 runs,it is even more out to lunch.
I'm wondering if the new unit that records the 60 ft. is more accurate.
The 0-60 runs are pretty much right on if you use one of the online calculators that calculate your 0-60 time based on your 1/8 mile ET/MPH
 
I just got a G-Tech Pro a few weeks ago from a vendor. I haven't used it yet due to the weather, but this spring I am really excited to try it out. Thanks for all the responses, as I was about to ask the same question. I really don't care how accurate it is, as long as it is consistant.
 
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