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Sadly most of all of the damage and rust seems to be in very visible places, especially if you know what to look for. This is why I will never buy anything with out someone I trust looking at it, or myself.
 
Sad story, and very informative video, I would not be able to be so objective as this guys is ! Salut !
 
To a point it is buyer beware....to a point. On the other hand, how could anyone advertise this car as even being saleable. I doubt that it would be able to pass a safety check around here. Definitely false advertising. I'd be talking to a lawyer. Their arguments hold no water in my books. Where has honesty and decency gone? I bet they waited quite a while to set up a guy like this to unload the car on. Doesn't trust mean anything any more? Unfortunately I think not.
 
To a point it is buyer beware....to a point. On the other hand, how could anyone advertise this car as even being saleable. I doubt that it would be able to pass a safety check around here. Definitely false advertising. I'd be talking to a lawyer. Their arguments hold no water in my books. Where has honesty and decency gone? I bet they waited quite a while to set up a guy like this to unload the car on. Doesn't trust mean anything any more? Unfortunately I think not.
Very well said.
 
i once got kicked out of a sleezy used car dealership for pointing out that the "numbers matching original" 396 in a 67 Chevelle didn't have any numbers that matched the car, the long water pump was wrong for that year, the single exhaust y pipe that was turned into a "factory" dual exhaust system (new on one side, rusted original on the other) looked like crap, and no big block Chevelless ever came with a 10 bolt rear axle.
i was just there looking at a Citation X11 notchback that they had out on the lot for $500, but the Chevelle sitting inside caught my eye. i didn't buy the Citation...
 
I think that the truly honest find it hard to imagine doing anything like this, because they could never imagine themselves doing anything like this.
The fact is, though, that there are many, many people out there who would be happy to screw you this badly, and worse, and wouldn't think twice about it.
Unfortunately, we've always got to think of those people every time we make any kind of a deal, especially over the internet.
Fortunately, there are a few people who, if they get screwed like that, will go to their place of business and throw a bottle of gasoline through the window, followed by a match. This serves to maintain some slight balance.

- Eric
 
Just more comfirmation never to buy and trust a classic car dealer. Unfortunatly, the buyer is so far away that it will cost a fortune just to persue legal issues. And the dealer knows it.:sad:
 
i once got kicked out of a sleezy used car dealership for pointing out that the "numbers matching original" 396 in a 67 Chevelle didn't have any numbers that matched the car, the long water pump was wrong for that year, the single exhaust y pipe that was turned into a "factory" dual exhaust system (new on one side, rusted original on the other) looked like crap, and no big block Chevelless ever came with a 10 bolt rear axle.
i was just there looking at a Citation X11 notchback that they had out on the lot for $500, but the Chevelle sitting inside caught my eye. i didn't buy the Citation...

It's funny how these so called reputable car dealers take exception to someone pointing out how they are about to screw someone.

A couple of years ago, I was kindly asked to leave a very well known classic muscle car dealer in Clearwater Florida for pointing out the VIN on the 67 SS they were selling was as they say, not as advertised.


Rocky
 
here is 2 more (classic car) dealers in Illinois i would not trust to add to the list.
maybe not as bad as legendary but lots of misrepresentaion with their cars i have seen first hand!!!!
http://www.countryclassiccars.com/
http://volocars.com/showroom.htm
I looked at a 68 camaro a friend of mine sold to the volo museum and they had plastered ss badges on it and were trying to pass it off as original, they paid him 8g for it and were asking 25g for it after installing a badge kit??? honesty and integrety my ARSE!!!

if your selling a car watch out for the guys from country classics, I was at several swap meets/car sales and talked to several guys about their cars that told me they had full price offers from the country classic guys and at the end of the day they would come pay for them/settle up, but when that time came they would tell the owners they found better deals but would pay them 50% of their original offers knowing full well the owners had turned away any real buyer because of their original offer..
just bad buisness!!!!
I personaly would NEVER buy a classic from a dealer because they are in it for one reason only to make money!!!
 
It is hard to feel bad for someone after the fact for not hiring an inspection or doing due diligence. However, there are just times when that is not possible. One persons interpretation of "restored" is and can be very different from the next. However, in the case of this Camaro, this was not a misunderstanding. This was just plain out and out dishonesty with the intent on taking advantage of someone and screwing them out of their money. Shame on this and other dealers who use the same practice.

One thing I have learned in 29 years of business and customer service, take care of one person and you will hear from 10 people who want to use you. Screw one person and you will NEVER hear from hundreds! In the long run being honest and taking care of customers will pay dividends for years. All screwing people does is give you a lot of money for a short period of time and a restless sleep. I feel for this Camaro owner and it really bothers me the black eye we have suffered for it. I think this dealer should be made an example of and be shown how much damage their extra little profit brought them! They will likely be out of business in a very short time. With the advent of the internet and forums, you just better be sure you know what you are doing before you screw someone because it WILL come back to haunt you.
 
I wonder how much this broken down Camaro cost$$.
Never buy a car sight unseen,period!! The air fare could have saved him allot of trouble!!
Also if you look only at pictures when buying a car ask for pictures in specific locations ,were these cars have serious rust problems. Southern car can mean southern, New York to some,ouch!!
 
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