WOW, I have had it dealing with American Racing. They are a joke and the customer service is pathetic. I ordered some custom CL 205's on MAY 1st with a 3-5 week fill time. Well, after 6 weeks I call and check. No centers are available, they are coming from CHINA, so wait another 4 weeks. Nothing again, so they say they should be another 2 weeks. Still nothing. I had to pay when I ordered. So after the 2 weeks still nothing. Call and check and now there is no gray paint for the centers. That comes from....CHINA. I mean who the hell is in charge of production management and purchasing over there. How are they staying in business? They said they get 10 calls per day. They said they would have paint in about 8-12 weeks!!!!!!!!! I said forget it after a 3.5 month wait. Got them to cancel my order (not easy) and called Halibrand. Had wheels in 3 days. The backspace could only be 4 3/8 and I wanted 4.5 but I did not think it would matter so I took them. The worst part is there was a list and some people who are ordering now will not be getting rims until next year as the new centers are already taken to fill back orders and they need ANOTHER center run to keep going. Just letting you know, you have a LOOOOOOOOOONG wait if you want custom CL 205's.