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Need some help and advice really bad
I thought I was purchasing a 1970 Chevelle with a VIN # 136670K115705 with tag # 280 VAB from a guy named Joe ( Jose ) Gonzales and a Walter Simmons Jr. in Neweport Beach California supposedly adddress of 12484 Bison Ave. I paid the guy for shipping as well for a total of 25,000.00 dollars, after not receiving the car I started getting excuses, the last one was he was in the hospital in ICU and while he was in there his family sold the car, then I called the Newport Beach Police Department and they was kind enough to tell me the car was never registered to either one of them and that it was just recently registered to someone and it was not either one of them or me, I have lost total trust in this guy but he says he is going to pay me back, the guy has been around cars and me and him have talked alot about them, I am posting this as 2 fold maybe someone knows of him or the car and to prevent someone else from getting ripped off.
If someone else has had this happen what do I need to do, a bank was involved in sending the money to a account that was a old account, I live in Mississippi and he lives in California
 

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#2 ·
Is the car in the pics the one you gave $25K for? Sounds like you got taken. I would get the bank and police involved. I would be standing at the door of the bank when they opened tomorrow mourning. This is fraud and illegal.
 
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I would be on the phone right now with the Newport Beach police asking what documentation you need to have him arrested. If I were a betting man I would say you will not get your money back. You may need a lawyers advice as well.
Do you know this guy? Did you ever meet him face to face?
 
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Jose Gonzalez is probably in the ICU after having a heart attack when he found out you actually sent him $25000. Bright side is there's probably only 6 million Jose Gonzalez's in the United States to track down. If he's in Mexico it gets a little tougher. The real question is how did you get in this situation in the first place.
 
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he is looking for an answer, not a question.

Not sure what is meant by closed account, but you must notify the bank and the police.
 
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#8 ·
Is that FBI then? Call your local police and ask what to do. I never had this happen.
 
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Im looking for someone who has gone thru and advice on this and if anyone knows of this guy or car, not looking for smart comments, I made a mistake and its obvious, I have bought 100s of parts and cars and this is the only bad experience.
 
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Seeing as how I am one of the people that you are complaining about, I thought I would point out one of the inconsistancies in your statements. You state that "this is the only bad experience" yet at least two other threads have been produced where you make similar claims. So which is incorrect, the quote above or your claims in the other threads?
 
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That is not a real address so it's going to be hard to drive there and beat his ass before you drag him into the bank and get your money back.
Post his phone number and/or email address you've been communicating him with and someone can track down the owner of the number or email address.
Did you file a police report? If not, may as well wait until after you beat his ass.
 
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His # is 949-887-2016 and 949-230-3250 and license # if correct is R0068534 and his email address is jgsolutions4@gmail,com, checking account info that was used is account#1975278324 Routing#122000247
 
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https://oag.ca.gov/

Here ya' go...maybe Senor Becerra's staff can help u out. Sounds like maybe u wired the money to a bank checking account? Are u a good customer at your bank? They probably have a security or anti-fraud department that might be able to advise you how to track the money trail. Unfortunately, once it's turned into greenbacks...the trail goes cold. Good luck.
 
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Those phone numbers are more than likely pre-paid throw aways. Also, more than likely a fake ID and new email address just for this scam. That routing number is for Wells Fargo bank. You should call their fraud department (800-869-3557) and ask who that account number belongs to.

Jose Gonzalez is too common of a name to nail down but I did find a Walter Simmons Jr. in Newport Beach:

http://www.whitepages.com/name/Walter-Simmons-Jr./Newport-Beach-CA/n2w0kpp

His mailing address is P.O. Box # 12484 (which is the fictional house # that was given to you on Bison Ave.)

https://www.familytreenow.com/records/people/simmons/walter/uclojcki95wefoewp0siqw

This second website lists his current address as 1280 Bison Ave #B9, Newport Beach, CA. It also lists Jose Gonzalez as a possible relative.

You must be in panic mode right now as $25k is a lot of money to write off. Good luck to you. Hope another member from CA can dig a little deeper.
 
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i think atty general was the best advice FBI??? maybe fraud you got the car so things were transported across state lines, i hope you get something back or hire a private investigater, i had a customer who wanted this white 60 corvette i have gave him all the does and donts the car was from vancover,i told him i would go to vancover to do inspection said to much money to do that, i mentioned you will pay a tarrif leaving and full tax on car when it leaves and gets to nyc, i also mentioned get a collector inspector i had a dupont guy to do inspection or go to an inspector for another state to do the inspection, what he does he do gets the mechanic of the body shop of the where hes getting the car from to check out the car he say its all good his boss put plenty of money into the car red flag to me, anyway he buys the car, now he calls me to take a look well the car was red now white has no rag top said it was there no frame too, was to be all numbers matching had a 350 engine in it also its automatic was to be a stick the generator is the drive for the speedo not there why the generator is 500.00 mind you he was told it was running and driving great all the body panel were glued wrong engine would not run, i know bunch of bs so the moral is dont do out of state buys unless you dig into it good he tryed to get some money back never happened honestly this is classic i told you so moment
 
#29 ·
If you feel like starting over...I have a garage full of parts that I will sell you for only $20,000.
 
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#30 ·
I'd be on the next plane to California. When you get there go buy a baseball bat. Show up at his front door and kindly inform him that if the cash isn't handed to you within the hour that your going to cave his head in. Don't let these parasites take advantage of you.
 
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When was the last time you had contact with them.I would contact a lawyer here in California to see what if anything they can or will do for you.Since your in another state I don't know how much law enforcement by themselves will do for you.Wells Fargo should do something for you as they are a involved weather they like or not.
 
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I think we are missing part of this story. The OP didn't mention anything about an eBay deal or even a Craigslist deal. There most likey is no Jose. Or Jose is possibly a 45 year old con woman posing as Jose. There is no car. The vin although not fake has nothing to do with fake Jose. The address is fake the plate is fake. Everything is fake.
The OP never said how he got mixed up with this. Never said whether the car in those pics was supposed to be the scam car. This not really a car. It's just some parts. Things don't really add up here.
Think maybe someone has been telling tales.
 
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The police say the vin is real and they know who the car is registered to.Any lawyer or private detective agency worth their salt should be able to get a hold of this info and do the leg work for you.just a suggestion of a way you might want try.
 
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