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Base coat down but a couple of problems

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#1 ·
Well this afternoon I layed down the base coat on my hood and trunk. What I thought was a smooth as glass finish turned out to not so smooth. There are some scratches from 400 grit dry sand that I didn't get out with the 600 wet sand. Is it possible to wet sand the base coat with 600 and then apply another coat of base or am I going to have to sand the base coat all off and smooth out the primer? Also on the one corner of the hood some dirt specks some how managed to get on the paint. I guess I have the same question there Can I sand out the dirt and reapply the base? I don't have any auto body expierence to speak of but I want to do a nice job. Thanks, Jerry.
 
#3 ·
you can clean up the base, but then you have to thoroughly scuff the base and reapply another coat before doing the clear.
 
#4 · (Edited)
Thanks guys, that sounds like a life saver. This is my first paint project and I am learning lots! Even when I picked up my paint (the base coat) the parts people asked me if I wanted lids for the mixing cups they gave me, silly me said no thanks. Little did I no that it would be nice to have some additional base coat mixed before you start painting. That stuff goes quick. And the sand lines, I didn't see them even after wiping everything with a wet towel after wet sanding, but the paint is dark blue and I suppose it shows a lot. Thanks again, Jerry. By the way, what should I use to scuff the base coat?
 
#7 ·
A lot of times on dark colors it will still show scratches, but they will not show after clearing, light colors are another story. I believe there are a couple basecoats you cannot sand, PPG isn't one of them. When buying paint ALWAYS ask for the tech sheets on EVERYTHING your using.
Watch that wax and grease remover, It will REMOVE fresh basecoat, best to wipe with a clean damp towel, do not touch the panel with ANY body parts;)
 
#8 ·
69ssmike said:
A lot of times on dark colors it will still show scratches, but they will not show after clearing, light colors are another story. I believe there are a couple basecoats you cannot sand, PPG isn't one of them. When buying paint ALWAYS ask for the tech sheets on EVERYTHING your using.
Watch that wax and grease remover, It will REMOVE fresh basecoat, best to wipe with a clean damp towel, do not touch the panel with ANY body parts;)
You shouldn't use the W&G remover between coats of base or between the base and the clear - that will mess up the bonding of the base coat with the clear. use it only if you are scuffing and reapplying base. I'm sure that's what you meant :)
 
#9 ·
Andy69 said:
You shouldn't use the W&G remover between coats of base or between the base and the clear - that will mess up the bonding of the base coat with the clear. use it only if you are scuffing and reapplying base. I'm sure that's what you meant :)
Base coat is un-catalyzed, most if not all W&G removers WILL eat into the BASECOAT. Heck, try it on some fresh clear and it will haze it up.
 
#10 ·
69ssmike said:
Base coat is un-catalyzed, most if not all W&G removers WILL eat into the BASECOAT. Heck, try it on some fresh clear and it will haze it up.
yeah and guess what it does to your butt if you absent mindedly put the rag in your back pocket and forget about it :clonk: Had a .. ... *friend* .. .. that did that once.
 
#11 ·
Andy69 said:
yeah and guess what it does to your butt if you absent mindedly put the rag in your back pocket and forget about it :clonk: Had a .. ... *friend* .. .. that did that once.
That is nothin, I worked at a paint factory and wiped up a small spill of Amino acid and did the same thing:clonk: First and second degree burns on my cheek and back of my leg.
 
#12 ·
I ran into the same thing with my lite green metallic. Had wet sanded with 600, then shot the base and clear. Next day I could see sand marks that I know were not there becasue I had guide coated it. But the metallic managed to find every little nook. We're going to repaint it shortly, but will prep with either 800 wet or 600 wet and a fine scotchbrite prior to base.
 
#13 ·
GRN69CHV said:
I ran into the same thing with my lite green metallic. Had wet sanded with 600, then shot the base and clear. Next day I could see sand marks that I know were not there becasue I had guide coated it. But the metallic managed to find every little nook. We're going to repaint it shortly, but will prep with either 800 wet or 600 wet and a fine scotchbrite prior to base.
This is one of the reasons I use sealer on ALL my jobs, the color covers faster, and better adhesion also.