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1972 ss 454 4 speed convertable -- paint code

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#1 ·
met a guy at north hempstead park car show last sunday who claimed to have a 1 of 27 ss 454 4 speed convertable chevelles and to top it off he said it was a -- paint code. Claiming the car to be a copo paint code 1 of 1 car. The car was beautiful and attention to detail was amazing. I just want to know if anyone has heard of this car and if it is the real deal. I dont have any pictures of it but it was a white top white interior; the paint was a blueish/purpleish metalic.
 
#3 ·
Its the real Deal. I met Tracey while he was restoring the car about 4 years ago. He has a website and is here on Team Chevelle every once and a while.

Why would I know? I own one of those 27 ( Its just a statistical #, not a real #) :)
Tracey is TSM5150
http://www.traceyschevelle.com/
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#7 ·
I don't think so. The cowl tag does have a -- and it is a "W" code.
 
#8 ·
I was hoping to see what was on the build sheet.
One Chevelle build sheet has "COPO/special paint" typed in the option field.

There has been a disscussinon for many years on the Camaro sites on how special paint was ordered. They don't have the Chevelle build sheets where it looks like some were COPO/special paint. Most special paint Chevelle build sheets have a F&SO order number and some don't have COPO or F&SO on them but have a special order number.

From looking at Chevelle build sheets, it looks like some were done on a COPO, some on a F&SO, and some just on a special order number.
 
#9 ·
Most build sheets for Chevelles I've seen with special paint have the "ZP3 SPCL PAINT"
option on the build sheet. And most of the time the paint instructions are typed on but I have seen a few that are hand written.
 
#12 ·
Neat! Can you post a pic of your '72?

This is part of my build sheet for a Kansas City, MO built 72SS car. It has the ' - - ' paint code on the body tag. The color was WA-4027 which decodes to 28 Fathom Blue. It also lists option 'ZP3 SPECIAL PAINT'.
Fathom Blue was not one of the standard color options for 1972.


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#14 ·
The color Tracey has for his convertible on his web site www.traceyschevelle.com in the specs and stats page states it is 1967 Danube blue (although I believe that was a 65-66 Chevelle color)
 
#16 ·
Correct me if I am wrong but I believe special paint was limited to the available colors for the model year across the GM line for cars and fleet in those days. The 72 that you are calling out as 1970 WA 4027 paint code 28 is actually 1972 Buick Royal Blue. Yes it was a Chevrolet code in 1970 however GM used different colors across the model lines with different names forever it was a Buick only color in 1972 still code 28 . An example was Hugger Orange in Chevrolet was Carousel red in Pontiac. I had a 72 that was also - - and it was Cadillac Cambridge Red Metallic right on the build sheet, had another one that was - - that was ordered Black . Ryder Yellow is Daytona Yellow in the fleet line ,and Hugger Orange is U Hauls fleet color. I spent 20 plus years working for big dealers and ordered a lot of cars !!!! In the early 80's I ordered all of my demo's and everyone was special paint or special combo's and I could order any color that was in the GM books Car and Fleet .


WA numbers are standard GM production code paint colors
WE numbers are special order code paint colors


Check ot this link to the available colors for 1972 look at all 10 pages !!!!!!

http://paintref.com/cgi-bin/colorcodedisplay.cgi?manuf=GM&year=1972&rows=50

They also have almost every year from 1917 to 2012 paint codes there !!!!!!!


Jim
 
#17 ·
This is from an old thread on, I think, yenko.net forums.

It appears that your car was special ordered through the Chevrolet Fleet & Special Order Department (many of you folks call it the COPO Group).
During the years that I was a part of this group, we processed many orders for vehicles with special paint. Although these vehicles were ordered with "special paint", they are not considered to be COPO cars. I'm surprised that more of these "special paint" cars haven't shown-up, as many of these orders were for performance cars.
The paint information (926-99568) that you have on both the build sheet and on the trim tag "is" in fact a Dupont paint number. I don't understand why your local Dupont folks can't identify it for you. The "926" denotes that the color is a non-metallic and the "99568" is the mixing formula. While this color may in fact be for Daytona Yellow, it could also be for some other yellow, including a truck color, or a yellow from another car manufacturer. The paint information that was stamped on your trim tag was supposed to be able to assist you or your body shop to identify the "special paint" color, if repair or re-painting was needed at a later date.
If your local paint supplier cannot identify the paint code, I'd give them a piece of this original paint, from an area that has not been exposed to the elements. Hopefully they can scan the color and provide you with a proper match.
Let me know if I can be of any other help to decipher the color.
Jim Mattison
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The prefix "767" denotes that the color is Dupont metallic wheel enamel. Non-metallic wheel enamel would be "766".
I am reasonably sure that I didn't process this order, and yes, the entire wheel on this Chevelle SS would have been painted gold. Some of the guys in my group didn't take the time to think about the possibility of a car having some type of sport wheels. You have to remember that the majority of our business was that of police cars, taxis and municipal vehicles, which came with the standard steel wheels. Occasionally, the plant would call and question the painting instructions, but not all that often!
The next five (5) digits are for the mixing formula of the paint. While I'm not 100% sure, I believe that "98457" is the mixing formula for Anniversary Gold, which has been used on a variety of Chevy’s over the years, to commemorate various anniversaries.
On your other Chevelle, the mixing formula "99616" is for what we used to call "Road Commission Orange". This was a very popular special order color on trucks, but some cars were ordered with it too! Mostly on "hot rods"!!!
The "1001HA" is the pricing code for the special paint. The charges for a solid color special paint would vary from no charge (1001AA) to $125.00 (1001HA). We would paint a vehicle any color under the rainbow except for the Cadillac Firemist colors and Corvette colors. Our special paint book would have thousands of special colors in it, with more being added weekly. Unfortunately, those days are gone forever!!!
I can still remember the cars that we special painted "Kelly Green" for John Delorean, when he was general manager of Chevy and dating Kelly Harmon. Lots of special "Pink" cars for Nancy Sinatra, too!!!
F&SO "RD0066" refers to the document number for the special order instructions. My department assigned these numbers. This order was the 66th at this plant for the 1970 model year. I believe that the "R" is for the GM Assembly Plant in Arlington, Texas?
I hope that this information is helpful.
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Wow!!! It appears that there is a lot of interest in the special paint process. I'll do my best to answer most all of everyone’s questions.
First, back in the late 60s and early 70s anyone could order their new Chevy with a special color. Literally any color under the rainbow was available, except for the Cadillac Fire mist colors.
The pricing for a solid color "Special Paint" would vary between no charge and $125.00. Volume would dictate the pricing.
If the customer was a fleet account, or if the dealer would order multiple vehicles in the same color, the pricing would be n/c. However, if the dealer would order a single unit, the pricing could go as high as $125, with various prices in between, based on many other factors.
Some of the other conditions that would require a car order to come through my group was: "Delete Stripes" on a Z-28, Chevelle SS, or other model with painted stripes. Colors that were current production, but on a different model, would also require our approval. We did lots of cars in "Hugger Orange" that normally didn't come in that color as n/c. Also, you wouldn't believe the number of Chevrolets that were painted the popular 1968-69 Pontiac color, "Verdoro Green"! I even remember a fair number of cars being ordered in the 1970 Chrysler color "Plum Crazy"!
It's too bad that I can't get to the Supercar Reunion this year and answer many of your questions in person. It would be so much easier to explain in more detail. However, with the production on the F-body coming to a close, GM has me scheduled to go to the Corvette Museum and represent both Chevy and Pontiac on the same weekend at the Camaro-Firebird Gathering, in Bowling Green, Kentucky.
Jim Mattison
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The Cadillac Firemist colors were excluded due to them having such a course metallic. These colors needed to be sprayed through a special paint gun. Even on a Cadillac, the Firemist paint was quite a costly option!
As for book........... I'll be the first to confess that I thoroughly enjoyed the years that I spent at Chevrolet. Lots of things were going on! It was a time in the automotive industry that we will never see again, as the industry has changed so dramatically!
I'll be happy to talk to folks about some of my experiences at Chevrolet (both the good and the bad), if I were to see you at a show or event. However, I sincerely doubt if anyone would ever want to read about my adventures. I was just a small fish in a big pond!
Jim Mattison
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The pricing for "Special Paint" was based on if the color was a current production color on another Chevy model, the number of vehicles ordered and if the account was a "Fleet Account". We would also have the ability to, at our discression, change the paint pricing on an order, if we felt that it was justified.
As for the paint, Dupont would send an ample amount to both the Fisher Body facility and to the corresponding Chevrolet plant. All of this paint was "factory package" direct from Dupont, so color matching wouldn't be a problem.
Also, on all special paint orders, a quart of paint would be shipped in the glove box of the car, so that the dealer could do any touch-up, if needed. A note would accompany this quart of paint, recommending that the owner write down the paint number inside their owner’s manual for future reference.
Jim Mattison
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#19 ·
I always wondered if that convertible was Special Ordered/Purchased in Canada and imported from the U.S.
(NO 1972 Chevelle Convertibles were built in Canada and an UNKNOWN number of U.S. built ones were imported-source GM of Canada Vintage Vehicle Services)
As far as I know there is still NO build sheet or documentation for this convertible.
There are alot more colors on the 1972 Canadian/U.S. paint chart including code 28 Royal Blue Met. To see Canadian/U.S paint chart see this link:
www.chevelles.com/years/72/72paint.html