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1111437 Distributor Authentication Question

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#1 ·
I purchased a rebuilt 1111437 1970 LS6 Distributor. The date code is 69 M 10. The seller thinks it is a reproduction and sold it as such, thus I got it for a low price. However, it measures original size and looks the same to me (I don't know much about these distributors) as any others I have seen.

Are there any markings other than the date code and part number that I can look for to verify its authenticity???

IMO, if it is that hard to tell, it is ok with me since authentic ones sell for $1300+.
 
#41 ·
Mike you mis-understand Konrad (Crushbox) he thinks an injustice is being done because you won't reveal the shop your dist went to. He wants the thread locked because you have kept this from being vendor bashing.

Some just can't grasp the concept of innocent until proven guilty, it doesn't matter that you can't prove the dist you sent in isn't the one that you got back. I'm not saying it isn't, just saying after the fact you can't prove it.

Mike I applaud you for taking the high road, everyone that reads this thread has been enlightened to something that they can avoid if they take precautions. That said, it doesn't matter who you delt with.

Once you are in contact with the vendor and facts come to light there might be more to the story, until then thanks again for taking the high road even though you have taken it in the shorts.
 
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Recently there was a thread titled "Resto Problem" which was linked to the Team Chevelle website. One of our customers posted on that site and this Yenko site accusing us of switching his original 1111437 distributor with a restamped version when it came into our shop for rebuild and restoration. I have posted a response about this issue in great detail on the Yenko site stating that we did not do any such thing and that when we received Mr. Carlton's distributor it was a restamped 1111437 unit. It is because of this situation and the fact that I have several employees in my shop, I have implemented a new policy at my company.


Memo:

Effective immediately, all distributors that come into our shop for restoration will be evaluated and inspected as soon as they are logged into our system. If there are no special instructions with the job as was the case with Mr. Carlton’s distributor, we will contact every customer if there is an issue regarding the authenticity of a distributor. We will ask the customer if he knew that his distributor was a restamped unit and if he or she wants it returned before we start the restoration process.

In the past, if there were no special instructions that came with a job, we restored the distributor; shrink wrapped the part and packaged it up for shipping. The invoice was mailed to the customer along with a calibration report on the distributor set up. When payment is received for our services, the part is shipped back to the customer. This has worked well for many years without any problems, but with all of the fraud in the restoration world today, we must take extra measures to assure that something like this never happens again.

I must also point out that many customers do ask us to verify if their distributor is real and to call them if a problem arises. We have provided this service for years but the customer had to request a certification in their special instructions to us. All distributors will be now be evaluated before any work begins.

After reviewing our records, Camaro Hi-Performance has restored well over 1100 distributors during the past ten years. As we know it only takes one incident like this to damage the reputation of a vendor in the industry. Not to mention all of the anxiety added to the customer and his confidence in the vendors that he uses.

All distributors will now be disassembled and the assigned work order number will be engraved into the aluminum housing under the point plate where it will not be seen. This number will coincide with the job number on the customer invoice along with a date. When the job is finished, the status of the distributor will be evaluated on the customer invoice. If we received a reproduction distributor, reproduction will be written on the customer’s invoice. If the distributor is an authentic unit, this will be stated on the invoice. If we restore a restamped distributor, we will write restamp on the customer invoice.

By implementing a detailed protocol into our work order system, a paper trail and traceability for all distributors that come into our shop will be documented in great detail not allowing this to ever happen again.

We will also continue to restore reproduction and restamped distributors for customers who ask us to restore them. Many in the hobby do not have unlimited funds to purchase $2000.00 distributors and are comfortable with installing a reproduction unit. As stated above, any and all distributors will be verified as to what they are on the customer’s invoice.

We do thank all of the patrons who use our services. We work very hard to provide the best restoration services at a reasonable cost to our customer base. This situation was very unfortunate for all parties involved but as we look to the future, it is our belief that implementing these procedures is necessary to avoid any future issues like this.

Thank you,

Jerry MacNeish
Camaro Hi-Performance, Inc.
http://www.chevelles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=180716
 
#57 ·
It would be looked at as a correct GM replacement part. Way better in my opinion than a restamp for many reasons. If it has not been tampered with , you end up with all the correct components for a fully functional piece that will help your engine perform as it was intended. Most restamps do not have the correct mainshaft or points cam that attain the correct mechanical advance rate and limit. The downside is only a few points lost for concours judging due to the service date code. As for engine application, the 1111437 distributor was only used on 1970 LS6 Chevelle applications for both Manual trans cars (M22) or Automatic cars (TH400). This date as well as one in June of 71 were produced for both crate engines and as service replacement parts.
Chris
 
#60 ·
I agree with ls6convertible on this one, total restamp. Here's a seller who has been selling restamped distributors on ebay for years. Obviously he is proud of this one as he claims this one to be origional. This is why unfortunately as much as I enjoy helping people you have to be careful how much help you give and to who as somebody always seems to end up getting ripped off due to somebody else's greed.
Chris
 
#61 ·
You would have to use caliper with dial indicator to measure it properly.A tape measure wont measure accuratly enough.An original will measure 3.830inches and a cut one is about 3.800 inches.Only about .030 thousands of an inch differance.Theses measurements are on an average.That could be .005 thousands of an inch or so more or less.All distribators had to be manufactored in specs as the same size as all caps were made the same size .You cant have sloppy caps or to big of ones that dont fit on the dist.. .
 
#62 ·
You would have to use caliper with dial indicator to measure it properly.A tape measure wont measure accuratly enough.An original will measure 3.830inches and a cut one is about 3.800 inches.Only about .030 thousands of an inch differance.Theses measurements are on an average.That could be .005 thousands of an inch or so more or less.All distribators had to be manufactored in specs as the same size as all caps were made the same size .You cant have sloppy caps or to big of ones that dont fit on the dist.. .
 
#65 ·
Timothy,

That stamping looks to be slightly off to me. The "4" and the "7", as well as the "L" don't match an original I have.

Rick