I may be in a boat all by my self but not a bad place to be I just hate to see old cars like Chevelles and Corvettes and so on with 17 inch wheels and bigger They look like crap I would like to see all older cars crush then to see them with bigger wheels and tires They are a eye sore for sure The real men who drove these old car drove them well with no fear and knew nothing about the modern tire and wheel and now with lesser girl like men who think they need the bigger wheel stuff to be able to drive these older cars I have two 1970 Chevelle SS 396 cars and a 1969 Dodge Charger and all of my cars will have 15x8.5 wheels and look like a true muscle car :hurray::beers: :thumbsup: :yes: