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My high school car was a 1970 Toyota Corona Mark V stationwagon, tan. Sold that and bought a 1970 Volkswagon bug, lowered. I really was on the dark side! I view the kids today just as I was when I was in high school. I drove like an idiot then, and talked smack about my pos. The only difference was I kept my mouth shut when the old muscle came around. Kids are kids, times change but they stay the same. ;)
 
Hey Zach. I don't really care for the rice either. But You have to respect what they can do with that rice. Anybody that can get 30 MPG and run low 12's in the quarter deserves respect. I wouldn't be caught dead driving one and I don't care what kind of tin can they use as a muffler they will still sound like crap.

I get them along side me all of the time and I think there is definitely mutual respect. We're all car guys. I'll never understand why anybody would put a dime into a Civic but I guess I'm just old school.

Just remember that there is nothing like old school American muscle. See you on Car Domain!
 
grave digger, anyway your lucky with my car i cant even get a race, and now with a speeding ticket i cant even get the car out of the driveway be4 mommy or daddy come out yelling at me.
 
this reminds me of high-school all over again (late 80's early '90s).....not the ones posting here, but all the challenges:

I had a neighbor who had just bought a new Beretta GT. He thought he could beat my camaro ('74, stock 400, auto, 4:11s). When I asked him how quick it was, he quoted Road and track. When asked what he had done to it, he said there's nothing more he needed to do, maybe a new muffler. We went to the local "track" and i sandbagged, and won by inches. he said he had a booger or something and wanted to run again. I told him I though he was full of it and he should put some $$$ up. I won an easy $20.

Another guy swore he had 7:11 gears in his early 70s firechicken......

back then, all 5.0 mustangs were considered the top street cars, yet none would race for cash.....

Moral of the story---race for cash or pride, at least you can show off all the performance work you've done. Just make sure to ask what they've done to the car. If it starts with sound/interior/muffler/wheels you probably will beat them. If they start with "I removed the V-tech and put in a R-matic blah blah blah, you found a real racer, and should become his friend. He's the future of hot-rodding.
 
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bobs72ss said:
But You have to respect what they can do with that rice.
A friend of mine raced an Evo that ran 14s, the next time they raced for money and the Evo ran 11.89. The driver of the Evo said he did some computer mods and tuned it up some. I can respect real "Gearheads" like this guy, but I laugh at all the Fast and the Furious wanna bees.
 
zachs chevelle said:
Just today a kid at school was talking about how his stock Ford Focus could "blow" me in. Once I asked him what he ran in the 1/4, he got quiet and said I would probably win. Then he said he could easily beat me in his Dad's ford Lightning. Hopefully I can race him soon, to shut him and his ricer friends up. I just rebuilt the 400, I upgraded the heads cam and manifold. I'm still breaking her in, hopefully I can get out to the track sometime this month. I'm hoping for mid to low 13s, what do you run?
"low 13's" my evo did that stock, my slighty mod EVO was paying it's off, by having these v8 guy tryin to bet money, like ss camaro, zo6, svt, GT( that was a joke)and around turn they cant even see my tail lights, i like my chevelle, but some of those import are packing alot of power under those hoods, should of seen the facce of this guy in a viper r/t couldnet get away from me the first 3 gears from a roll
 
Ok, I didnt read any of the previous post but in auto there is about 5 Asians who think they know their stuff and ike, of course, rice. I didn't bother to mess with them all year because its pointless and I have better things to do but the other day I didnt have anything to do. I went over with a distributor that was a table with a few other parts and asked them what it was. One replied a thingy, another relied a blowoff valve, and the others sat there and stared at it. Then I told them Vtecs suck and they were like blah blah blah. Then when another kid came out of the back room they told him I was talking about Vtec and he was like hey musclecars suck. He now wants to race me when I have my car. The ricetard has a civic with a Vtec and claims it has 140 hp and says "It will run a 13.5 second quarter mile." What an idiot. First off its not gonna run a 13.5 and second off my car will be built to run low 12s or better. He doesn't think I can build 450-500 hp for under $3500 because one of the kids brothers spent 8K on another Vtec for like 250 horsepower. My reply was that his brother is a retard and spent tons of money because he is trying to make power with a 4 banger Virtually Torqueless Economy Car.
 
Careful what you fool with ... Hobby has been cubic $$ for a number of years now. There are many ricer's out there that can (and do) run 12's. It does however take far more cubic$$ to run that, without displacement:)

Chances are in a school yard ... yeah, you're looking at a bunch of fart-can modd'd cars ... that'll run a quick 16-sec.

Anyhow ... blow off the kids that talk all smack. Muscle-cars suck, this and that ... they're the one's that don't have a clue. Be wary of the guy that's quiet, and respects what a 400ci engine can do ... he may just be running more than you think:)

Neal
 
THEL78ISGREAT said:
Ok, I didnt read any of the previous post but in auto there is about 5 Asians who think they know their stuff and ike, of course, rice. I didn't bother to mess with them all year because its pointless and I have better things to do but the other day I didnt have anything to do. I went over with a distributor that was a table with a few other parts and asked them what it was. One replied a thingy, another relied a blowoff valve, and the others sat there and stared at it. Then I told them Vtecs suck and they were like blah blah blah. Then when another kid came out of the back room they told him I was talking about Vtec and he was like hey musclecars suck. He now wants to race me when I have my car. The ricetard has a civic with a Vtec and claims it has 140 hp and says "It will run a 13.5 second quarter mile." What an idiot. First off its not gonna run a 13.5 and second off my car will be built to run low 12s or better. He doesn't think I can build 450-500 hp for under $3500 because one of the kids brothers spent 8K on another Vtec for like 250 horsepower. My reply was that his brother is a retard and spent tons of money because he is trying to make power with a 4 banger Virtually Torqueless Economy Car.
Are you for real? This sounds like a lame Fast and the Furious comic book or something. And the sad part is this is your side of the story. You keep knocking V-tec, assuming you even know what it is, but it really is cool technology, and very benifitial, of course ppl rag on it because its Honda's version, but never seem to complain when its in a Ferrari or Lamborghini.
 
thats because weve never seen them on ferrari or lambos we just call that over priced penis cars. hahahahahaha
 
I have to admit though, it's hard to understand why guys put so much money into Neons, Focuses, and imports. I was always a believer that unless you were going to keep the car forever, don't put $25000 in a $15000 Neon because you will never get your money out of it if you decide to sell it.

Also, how do these guys launch a unibody without twisting the frames without spending all kinds of money on frame supports? Back in heyday of Mustang GTs, my buddy had a T-top 90 GT that blew the glass tops off at launch once, and spent a truckload of money on frame supports to keep it from happening again. The musclecars never had that problem because:

a) they had a full frame

b) they werent built to corner or ride good...just straight line speed

Just my two cents. Respect the fact that they love cars, I'm 31 so I am not too old to hate imports, just rather have a LS6 any day over a Honda.;)
 
-SS454- said:
Are you for real? This sounds like a lame Fast and the Furious comic book or something. And the sad part is this is your side of the story. You keep knocking V-tec, assuming you even know what it is, but it really is cool technology, and very benifitial, of course ppl rag on it because its Honda's version, but never seem to complain when its in a Ferrari or Lamborghini.
Uhhm, im not knocking VTec, im knocking 4 banger ricetards. Their engines are VTecs so im just calling it by its name.
 
Neal Wright said:
Chances are in a school yard ... yeah, you're looking at a bunch of fart-can modd'd cars ... that'll run a quick 16-sec.
Neal
Yeah. I know. With a high 12 I would easily be able to blow anything at my high school away even if I screwed up out of the whole when I was against them. Theres a few STis. Someone I know owns one but hes cool, he used to have a WS6 Trans Am but had to sell it because the payments were too high. He onced managesd a 12.9 in the STi after playing with the computer. I know of one kid in particular who thinks hes gonna have a Supra that will take anything but he really knows nothing about me. He doesn't know much about engines either. He might get away with a high 13 after he spends tons of money and brings it someplace to have stuff installed but I know I can run low 12s on my budget, possibly high 11s. There not many serious tuners around town here either. I can tell the serious ones apart too because they dont act like imature retards and will actually respect you and your musclecar to a degree because they know at least something about how to build engines. I have a pretty good job lined up, $13 and hour, all disposable. Should put me in a good position to run where I want to. The thing I really hate about ricers is their complete lack of knowledge of cars and their huge mouths and punk attitudes.
 
biggest problem is that most all ricers are little punk B!tches that think there 17 second cars are fast and cool as hell. its everything about them and there cars all rolled up into 1 that makes them so pathetic.
 
zachs chevelle said:
A friend of mine raced an Evo that ran 14s, the next time they raced for money and the Evo ran 11.89. The driver of the Evo said he did some computer mods and tuned it up some. I can respect real "Gearheads" like this guy, but I laugh at all the Fast and the Furious wanna bees.
That sounds like me! My Evo is fast when it wants to be.. I was at bragging rights ar carolina motorspeedway last week and my buddy ran a 10.7 @ 131 in his Evo, And he still had more left
 
SteelChevelle said:
I have to admit though, it's hard to understand why guys put so much money into Neons, Focuses, and imports. I was always a believer that unless you were going to keep the car forever, don't put $25000 in a $15000 Neon because you will never get your money out of it if you decide to sell it.

Also, how do these guys launch a unibody without twisting the frames without spending all kinds of money on frame supports? Back in heyday of Mustang GTs, my buddy had a T-top 90 GT that blew the glass tops off at launch once, and spent a truckload of money on frame supports to keep it from happening again. The musclecars never had that problem because:

a) they had a full frame

b) they werent built to corner or ride good...just straight line speed

Just my two cents. Respect the fact that they love cars, I'm 31 so I am not too old to hate imports, just rather have a LS6 any day over a Honda.;)
The only "rice" I can honestly respect are rear wheel drive and awd ricers. Most, if not all of them, came with single or dual turbos. I also respect, and would love to have, a Neon SRT-4. One of my friends has one and has been building it up little by little. He hasn't ran it at the track because he feels it'd be a waste of money to burn out the whole way (1/8th mile). I'd say it's at least a high 12 sec car :thumbsup: Now, one of his friends, also has an SRT-4. Well, I'm not too familiar with this guy and his set up, but my best buddy (he's like a brother to me) told me that he seen him run an LS1 99ish Camaro SS. The guy in the SRT-4 gave the guy in the Camaro a 3 car head start, and beat the Camaro by 2 cars. Now, I know that some of you guys might be thinking BS, and that it's hear say, whatever. All I gotta say is I've known my buddy for about 10 years, and he's never lied to me, especially when it comes to cars and street racing. Like I said, he's like my brother. If you guys don't believe that, then that's kool, but just be "forewarned" that there are some lil 4 bangers out there that can tear you up! Even if your ride is a high, mid, low 12 or 11 sec car.
 
THEL78ISGREAT said:
I have a pretty good job lined up, $13 and hour, all disposable. Should put me in a good position to run where I want to.
Must be nice! I make almost $22/hour, and still don't have any left over to "play" with :rolleyes:
 
Firstly the price. You could build a VW bug to run 10s for cheap if you wanted, or you can spend $40,000 on a muscle car to run 15s and sound fast. I guess its all down to user preference. I bet a lot of import groups wonder why a lot of muscle car enthusiests spend so much money into a dinosaur car that often runs slow for the power, guzzles gas, and cant stop or corner worth a damn, and needs slicks to do anything. Theres tons of bang for the buck at both tables.

THEL78ISGREAT, you say how they spend tons of money to do nothing, and your saying how your going to spend nothing to get everything. Until you do it, you shouldnt brag about what you dont have. No offence or anything. But you talk about how anyone with imports are punks with huge mouths and attitudes and no knowledge for cars, but your doing that very same thing. Being humble and just saving the punches for the track or whatever is often a higher route to go, instead of starting stuff because you dont like imports.
 
-SS454- said:
Firstly the price. You could build a VW bug to run 10s for cheap if you wanted...

How dare I forget about VeeDubs! I love VeeDubs! I have/had a '66 Ghia. I never found out what size the motor was, but I'm believe that it's a plain jane 1600, even tho I know 1200 and 1300s did come out in 66s. Reason I'm believing that it's a 1600 is cause of the "power." I'd hit 80 easily on the freeway, and could even hit 90. From what I know 1200/1300s start dying out around 60 or so, but with mods, obviously, you can hit higher fwy speeds. Anyway, I did minor mods to it, and was really happy with it. I yanked the stock filter element and slapped on an open element filter, had the 009 distributor converted to electronic pick up, put on a power pulley, and installed a "hide away" muffler. I think that was about it! :D I bought a 1641 in the hopes to tear it apart, and build/stroke it, but never got around to doing it. I still have the motor. Some day I'll get a bug and do what I want :D


-SS454- said:
or you can spend $40,000 on a muscle car to run 15s and sound fast.
I don't know man, $40k on a muscle car to run 15s??? Unless all the money went to body, suspension, interior, and very little on the motor, then maybe. If you were to dump that $40K on the motor(v8), you better believe it's gonna haul ass!!! :D :D :D
 
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