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I hear a sort of puffing sound, almost sounds like a clicking sound from the passenger side of the engine. Im thinking it might be a leaking exhaust manifold gasket. If thats the case then im not too worried cause im gonna install headers along with new gaskets this week but any advice or ideas of what it could be would help.

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Ryan
 
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Ryan,
There is everything from cheap, paper to the finest quality copper gaskets available (and you get what you pay for) out there. Some brands offer either square or round port gaskets. I've had experience with all, and by far, the copper are the best (and, of course, the most expensive). In time, everything except the copper will someday leak or bolw a hole in the gasket.

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Tom Parsons
 
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I have had really good luck with Fel Pro gaskets. I know some will say not to, but I also put a film of "Ultra Copper" Silicone on both sides. But it HAS TO be the ulta copper. Remember to re tighten them after warming them up.I also re check them 5 or 6 times in the next couple of weeks until I am not finding any more loose ones.Tom is right though. If you want the best, go with copper.

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i got a pair of mr gasket coper gaskets..they sucked so bad leaked out of every primary except for the back one...i returned them and got some dead soft aluminum ones from summit. no leaky leak now. and they are reusabel
 
Copper is great if you have perfect flanges. The best for street in my opinion are the dead soft aluminum for the headers and collectors.
 
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The copper only work well on some headers. The header must have either a flat surface or the bead on the gasket and header must match. Where I work we try not to sell copper gaskets to anyone because there have been too many problems. We try and sell the Mr. Gasket Ultra Seal gaskets instead. Also Earls makes a good gasket.

Steve R.
 
OK, I'll accept that. I personwlly have not heard any complaints about the copper gaskets. After using all the others, I bought the copper for both the header and collector ends and that totally stopped my problems. I have tightened the bolts 2-3 times since installing and all has been well.
But I will admit, I haven't tried the alum ones.

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Tom Parsons
 
I still agree with Tom. I have never used the aluminum header gaskets, but have used the aluminum collector ones, and they leaked!! I had to put a fibre gasket on either side of them. That worked. As far as I can see, there is no gasket that you can put in and ignore it. You must warm them up,and re-tighten several times.
 
I do have small gripes for the aluminum in the collector. I think that it stems from the fact that Dynomax headers like the pair I have are assembled with loose flange faces on the header and collector sides respectively. They have three bolt holes and when you tighten them up they bend to meet at the bolts but not the rest so you have essentialy curved them out, inviting leaks. I was not impressed with this but the coated header is nice. So give and take. I might try the fel pros with the aluminum sandwiched between and see what happens.
 
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Let me interject one thing here before this procedes any further. When you switch from a very solid, ridged, cast iron exhaust manifold, which, when newly assembled to the head at the factory, -----WITHOUT ANY GASKET------, to a thinwall, steel tube which flexes-------A LOT, you're going to have leaks. Period. Obviously, the quest is to find a suitable gasket which will do the best job of sealing for the longest period of time. ONLY a very few of my cars have headers, the rest have stock type exhaust manifolds. There is no question that a good set of headers allows the engine to breathe better and produce more power. Period. Plus, headers (nice coated ones) just look good, manifolds don't (except on a 100% correct restoration). Personally, I'd give anything if the old 2 1/2in Rams Horn manifolds would clear on a Chevelle, and other cars. That's all that I would have.
Also, header flange-to-head fit is just like fingerprints. They're ALL different. Very probably you could take 2 identical pairs of heads and 2 sets of headers made at the same time, and use the same brand/type of gaskets, bolt them all together, and one may leak tomorrow and one may never leak for 5yrs.
No question about it, sealing headers for a long term is a real challange.

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Tom Parsons
 
I`ll go along with that Tom. I think that headers are something that require attention sometimes. They can be a drag but if a guy felt hasseled about it , lets see him give up and go back to cast iron .
 
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the best thing i have found to stop headers from leaking is red high temp silicon or copper silicon no gaskets let it set for 24 hrs. before cranking it also keeps the bolts from working out you will have to use a screw driver to pry them loose if you have to remove them
 
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