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This car is 5 minutes away from me, too.
 
I don't think the build sheet belongs to that car... It clearly says "vinyl top" option on the build sheet.. And on the cowl tag of the car it has a white colored top.. As in digits and not letters...



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Sure it isn't numbers correct. So what? Pictures hide a lot of warts and this could be a stinker... sure. If it is a nice driver and as good as the PICs appear to be then whats the big deal?

With no reserve it is gonna sell one way or another and it could be a great car for someone who is not all f---'ed up about a numbers perfect / correct car. I fully understand the numbers interest a lot of people have..that said I also understand what a PIA it is do do what appears to have been done to this car.

If it can be had for $25k +/- and I was not interested in correctness I think it might be an OK car. People pick these things to death all the time around here not considering that some buyers just don't care about "No 375HP cars with Air"...yada yada yada yada. If it is incorrect and the reserve is $90K sure I can see some ire being discharged. Sure the advertisement is likely BS but IMHO considering no reserve it is worth looking at.
 
I don't think the build sheet belongs to that car... It clearly says "vinyl top" option on the build sheet.. And on the cowl tag of the car it has a white colored top.. As in digits and not letters...


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Which sheet? Guy's a little off balance in his docs and for that reason I'd pass. Numbers or no numbers, not the issue......the issue is misrepresentation.
 
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Those who understand how to read a build sheet, a vin or cowl tag will understand. Those that don't should simply ask. It's not about correctness or details here. It's about determining value. I hope the bidders understand that.
 
Which sheet? Guy's a little off balance in his docs and for that reason I'd pass. Numbers or no numbers, not the issue......the issue is misrepresentation.
The issue is "Is it a car you like". If you don't care about what he says it is and you can determine that it is what you want then I don't see an issue. Sure if you don't know what you are looking at and you think it is what the seller says it is then yup you get screwed. You get hosed at $50K or more no doubt but this car has no reserve and it apparently is at $25k +/- right now.

At $25K +/- IF (BIG IF) this car has what ya want in a turn key fun driver what does it matter if the seller says it is a Rolls Royce? As long as you know it isn't, as long as you don't want a Rolls Royce and as long as it isn't priced like a Rolls Royce I don't see any harm.

I am not saying buy it. I am saying that under the right circumstances it is not a bad deal looked at thru pictures. Dig deeper..who knows? Loaded with filler, sawdust in the trans...anything is possible. It is also possible that it could be a nice driver for the right buyer. Everyone doesn't care that A/C was not avail with solid lifters.
 
Looks like a Van Nuys LS5 build sheet for a Kansas City "L78" lol different than the picture of the partial sheet too :D
Wording wrong even for a Van Nuys LS5 buildsheet...
Should read Z15 454 V8 SS PKG, G80 POSITRACTION, D55 CONSOLE (no -FRONT), etal.

09-16 Build Sheet date and 06D KC trim tag date.
63-10 two-tone paint on trim tag but 48 G on the build sheet.

Course the seller never really says the fake sheet is for this car.

Even the POP is wrong - looks like it's for a 1968 Malibu with a 307.

Really sad...:sad:
 
:cool: OMAN the "issue" here is not selling a "nice driver" for 25K; BECAUSE the seller expects the bidding to go way over 25K. In light of the expected final bid price the issue becomes fraud: That Chevelle DID NOT start it's life as a factory built SS396; it is a clone (a +/- $20,000.00 clone at that). Because the seller is PURPOSELY misrepresenting the car as a real deal factory-built SS396 it's FRAUD (either on the seller's part or the consignee's). Someone is out to "take" someone -- they're not out to simply sell a nice car at a fair price.
 
WOW What a mess. No L78's were built at that time.
 
Sure it isn't numbers correct. So what? If it is a nice driver and as good as the PICs appear to be then whats the big deal?

With no reserve it is gonna sell one way or another and it could be a great car for someone who is not all f---'ed up about a numbers perfect / correct car.
X2!...EXACTLY. period.:yes:

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:cool: OMAN the "issue" here is not selling a "nice driver" for 25K; BECAUSE the seller expects the bidding to go way over 25K. In light of the expected final bid price the issue becomes fraud: That Chevelle DID NOT start it's life as a factory built SS396; it is a clone (a +/- $20,000.00 clone at that). Because the seller is PURPOSELY misrepresenting the car as a real deal factory-built SS396 it's FRAUD (either on the seller's part or the consignee's). Someone is out to "take" someone -- they're not out to simply sell a nice car at a fair price.
Read this: WHO CARES??:wacko:
After looking at the ad for the car, I can't help but to think that you guys are much too picky.:mad: I know a lot of guys who'd be proud of owning it regardless if it came that way from the factory or not over 40 years ago, when some of us weren't even born! :rolleyes:

Claude.
 
I agree with Nickeychevelle 100%, I wouldn't want to be fooled into buying something that it really isn't even if it was made 40 years ago because the seller is misrepresenting his car. And the wheels on this car look awfully different to me.
 
Hey Claude....punctuating your statement doesn't mean you're right or that you got the last word.
There, look back to my previous post, I "un-punctuated" it. I did not say in hopes of "getting the last word" like you say, but rather because I can't stand "purists" who act as if they're back from another planet after more than 40 years and who expect nothing to have changed. :rolleyes: A lot of things might have happened to a car over such a period of time, especially since most of them have likely changed hands a few times. When taking that into consideration, someone should be more understanding and forgiving if a little "detail" here and there has been changed or altered over the years that might not be 100% correct and still appreciate it for what it is. :yes:

Claude.
 
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