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I guess this is kind of a couple of questions. The metal dash part in my 66 is red. I am painting the car black. My assumption is that the only "right" way to do this is to remove the windsheild correct? Any other options?

If I need to remove the windsheild what is the best way and too.s to use? This is a good windsheild so I hate to screw it up.

Thanks
Wade
 
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I am in the early stages of rstoring my 64. I got the back window out pretty easily. I discovered it is shockingly easy to crack the windshield, though! I put a tiny, tiny chip in the edge while I was working the piano wire through the sealer and, Bingo, cracked.... I was planning on a new one anyway, but still bummed.

Jerry
 
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Thanks guys. I am not overly concerned about it being the origional and maybe a replacement would look better. I am not about to pay someone to do it. I am way to cheap for that. I would much rather screw it up my self and learn.:thumbsup:

Where do you get the wire to remove the windsheild? Is there a preffered method for removing it?

Thanks
Wade
 
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autobody toolmart sells a spool of the wire. Harbor freight sells a kit too. I hear guitar string works too. I bought some braided wire high strength fishing leader and wrapped it around some wooden sticks. Worked pretty good!

Jerry
 
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I use a HYDE retractible razor knife cutter and start at the top of window on inside, and cut the seal with the razor blade. I cut alittle at a time till it go's thru to the out lip. Once i get the top section cut thru, i cut down both sides of the window till it is cut thru. I do the lower edge last and when it is all cut loose, i just have someone help me take it out.:thumbsup: Just be careful if you use a razor knife because those snap off blades with break off.:yes: But i have alot of blades for it. I never had any luck using the wire. All ways cracked the window!!!!:mad::sad: I have used these HYDE razor knifes on both front and rear windows with no breaking of the windows. :hurray::yes: Just broke some blades. Larry
 
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What my glass guy uses is a handle with a 90 degree cutting edge and a short line going to a handle so he can pull the assembly toward him.

I did a quick internet search, I hope this image makes it easier to understand.

You can get them at any body shop / paint supply specialist.

Piano wire or guitar strings will break your windshield unless you are very careful. All they need to do is catch a burr on the glass and it will crack.

http://www.gtglass.com/components/c...components/com_virtuemart/shop_image/product/Windshield_Remov_4f5542e8c0ceb.png
 
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Munch69ProTour said:
What my glass guy uses is a handle with a 90 degree cutting edge and a short line going to a handle so he can pull the assembly toward him.

Piano wire or guitar strings will break your windshield unless you are very careful. All they need to do is catch a burr on the glass and it will crack.

http://www.gtglass.com/components/c...components/com_virtuemart/shop_image/product/Windshield_Remov_4f5542e8c0ceb.png
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I've had one for twenty years. And even their misuse will break the glass. I've read my share of threads in which guys have failures. If you fail to use patience, you'll break it.
 
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Maybe this is too obvious, but no one mentioned it so I will.

To avoid breaking the glass, I find one particular detail in the original GM installation/removal instructions to be particularly helpful and important.

With regard to both removal and installation of glass, the Fisher body manual says "working with a helper..."

:)

Keith
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I used piano wire to take mine out of my 64.It takes 2 people.
Took it out no problem set it on wood blocks and leaned it against the wall for 2 years no problem.Went to put it in push it against the sealer in the upper corner on the drivers side and cracked it.The crack is still there after 4 years.:sad:
 
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Gamecock66 said:
My assumption is that the only "right" way to do this is to remove the windsheild correct? Any other options?

Thanks
Wade
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From the looks of your photobucket pics, you're pretty well stripped down already, looks like you might as well just remove the dash and paint it. Then you can fix the rusted connections, replace PO rigs, replace bulbs, etc. Why chance breakin' the windshield unless it needs to be replaced ?? My 66' dash needs painting too, but I'd pull it
 
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Stickman said:
From the looks of your photobucket pics, you're pretty well stripped down already, looks like you might as well just remove the dash and paint it. Then you can fix the rusted connections, replace PO rigs, replace bulbs, etc. Why chance breakin' the windshield unless it needs to be replaced ?? My 66' dash needs painting too, but I'd pull it
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If it's an original install, chances are the urethane has failed in spots, especially along the lower edge.


I used a utility knife along the edge of the glass to cut away all the excess urethane from the outside. Once that is scraped out and removed, your left with a thin strip under the glass, which I sliced from the inside with the same retractable knife CHEVY7DSS mentioned.

I did the removal alone, no problem.
 
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onequiknova said:
If it's an original install, chances are the urethane has failed in spots, especially along the lower edge.
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That's the problem with mine. PO resealed the front windshield... but left the dash rusted on the lower corners. From the looks of Wades pics' his dash is only a few bolts from coming out. Then you could sand it real good, prep it, and paint it right. It's an awkward spot to refurb while installed...
 
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Thanks guys. Actually those pics are kinda old now. I removed the dash and found some rust in the heater box area of the firewall that I had to fix. I put a windsheild in my Corvette but I did not pull it out so this will be my first one...:hurray:
 
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Make sure you buy and install the trim clips before you go back in with the new window. After the window is in you can't put the side clips in. The side pillar clips are screwed in where as the other clips just push onto the trim studs.
 
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Gamecock66 said:
I guess this is kind of a couple of questions. The metal dash part in my 66 is red. I am painting the car black. My assumption is that the only "right" way to do this is to remove the windsheild correct? Any other options?

If I need to remove the windsheild what is the best way and too.s to use? This is a good windsheild so I hate to screw it up.

Thanks
Wade
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A couple of things come to mind here...

First, the dash should be the same color as the interior, Red interior would use a Red painted dash... You said you are painting the car Black, but are you changing the interior to Black? Or leaving it Red?

Removing the factory installed windshield is usually pretty easy, with a piece of wire with handles or other specialty tools... BUT, if the window was replaced, then the adheasive might be stronger, and harder to "cut" through...


http://www.summitracing.com/parts/KTI-70540/

I bought and used one of these... The same as was previously mentioned... Pretty easy to use and cut it out by yourself, if you take your time... Once loose, you might want to get someone to help lift it out.
 
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