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Look on turn son in law craigslist for the guy advertising 66 chevelle replacement quarters for 995 including parts. He works out of a friends garage and does excellent work. You can see the quarters floor roof he did on Johns 70 El Camino and the new quarters on the 66 chevelle. He does bodywork too and isn't a reztortion shop more of a shadetree bodyman with lots of experienc and low overhead. That the are has no carpet so you can see the floors etc. He has a set of louvers for that car and a stock flat hood. If I wanted another project I would consider the camaro. But we bought a 71 nova a year ago that I'm playing with. Jim
 
It really is different for very old classic cars. It warns the buyer that something major has happened to the car. There was a time when a ton of cars from a flooded region were being totaled out, cleaned up and resold. The buyers had no way of knowing the car was a flood car.

Others would take two cars and weld them together, sometimes the job would be sub-par and dangerous.

On an very old car, a simple inspection would reveal problems.

The ins companies will usually only payout 1/2 the value of the car if it has a salvage title

I understand you can get a salvage title for theft recovery or heavy damage. Also, you have to consider the area prices. In California, it's pretty easy to total a car because repair prices are so high.

I had a Honda with a $4400 retail value, got hit in the rear. They wanted to total it out, I argued against it. The fix was a bumper cover and bracket. Cost was about $100.

I think it's setup so the ins companies don't keep paying out on the same car over and over again.
 
You are wanting to race this car on a road course? It could turn into a salvage vehicle anyway. (lol) I think that car is perfect for what you want to do with it, The salvage title would not bother me at all. If that is your goal, I would not spend a lot of money on getting the body perfect. Most restored cars would have salvage titles if the in insurance company had to pay to have them fixed!!!
In my opinion salvage titles only affect newer cars. JMHO
 
I was told by the DMV in Arizona legally to part out a car you need to turn in the title and get a dismantling permit. If you bought a shell from a guy that parted the car out the only title you can get is a salvaged title. My chevelle should have a salvaged title because the owner parted it and I bought a rolling tub. But he didn't do it officially so I still have a regular title
if you get it take a bunch of good quality pictures before you prime it so any potential buyer can see what you started with. Jim
 
Cheap cost to get into a "rust free" body. Problem is that to restore this camaro would cost the same as restoring a Chevelle or 67,68,69 camaro and when you get done this year camaro would be worth a ton less. If you want "this year" camaro go ahead, price is right, just not worth a lot when you get done.
 
Cheap cost to get into a "rust free" body. Problem is that to restore this camaro would cost the same as restoring a Chevelle or 67,68,69 camaro and when you get done this year camaro would be worth a ton less. If you want "this year" camaro go ahead, price is right, just not worth a lot when you get done.
That's the same kind of issue we all have to deal with. Right now most collector cars are worth 1/2 what they were in 2006, yet the cost to restore them is the same. I probably could have sold mine for more then, than I'll be able to get once the paint is done.

Although it seems some cars are still about the same price, I haven't seem much of a drop in the 65-67 vettes.

Doesn't really seem fair, but that's something we all have to deal with.

Remember, it's not always about the money.
 
Those pics explain the salvage title to the next buyer...you literally had to bring it back to life....once they see how far gone the car was they will understand it was a total restoration and the salvage title issue wont be an issue...Id buy the car and find a good body man.
 
depends on your state, but if the title is over 30 years old here in ok, we can convert a salvage title to classic title with vin inspection. some states don't even require titles on cars over 30 years, just bill of sale.

if your gonna race it and has no rust, hammer it out and go racing. spend the money on go fast parts. if your wanting to fix it, looks like 2 80% quarters and a tail pan, or at least the lower half, at least.
 
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depends on your state, but if the title is over 30 years old here in ok, we can convert a salvage title to classic title with vin inspection. some states don't even require titles on cars over 30 years, just bill of sale.
I'm learning that in some states this wouldn't be a problem but my understanding about Arizona is that I can only change the title branding to "restored salvage". Again, my fear is I will want to put too much $$$ into it.
 
I'm learning that in some states this wouldn't be a problem but my understanding about Arizona is that I can only change the title branding to "restored salvage". Again, my fear is I will want to put too much $$$ into it.
i would call your insurance company and ask them how they feel about it. personally, I don't think it affects resale value at all considering some of the stuff I have seen reborn.
 
I'm learning that in some states this wouldn't be a problem but my understanding about Arizona is that I can only change the title branding to "restored salvage". Again, my fear is I will want to put too much $$$ into it.
If you are afraid of "return on investment" you need a new hobby. You will more then likely not see the prices for these car come back up to what they were, possible? yes, but not likely! I wish I lived closer, I would buy that car in a minute!
Just built the car smartly and avoid going crazy on high dollar body work and other things.
 
If you get all or most of the parts missing in the picture at the price mentioned I think it is a good deal ,looks like some mud in the quarter could be covering a dent or rot ,hope for the dent hammer and dolly will fix alot of that. if the parts are still with the car that is a fair price ,it would sell quick around here good luck Mike:thumbsup: ps I would not let a salvage title stop me from buying the car looks like a solid car, but I would inspect it good luck
 
i think a full picture documentation would abort the salvage title arguement

i dont see why you worry about paint so much on a race car.

i would have it cleaned & painted to stop rust, inside & out, a cheapo paint job, and leave the dents. tell the shop what your plan is

and race it a season, then see how you feel about it.

cars that are raced get dinged.

money is spent, no matter what. i would have 75% fast and 25% looks in my race car.

YMMV,
i would get it & go have some fun.
 
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Update: I spoke with Hagerty insurance last week about adding a "salvaged" car to my policy sent them all the pictures I had for them to review. I heard back today that they would insure it as if it had a clear title. I told them I would put a rollcage in it and to my surprise I did not get any push back from them. To the replies mentioning my desire to turn it into a race car I did not mean to imply a Saturday night dirt track car that will routinely get banged up. Imagine some of the cars you see in the magazine like the DSE Camaro. I have seen that blue car at a show and it is clean yet he "uses it" on the track as well. That was along the line that I was thinking.
 
Bill,

I have spent plenty of time up at VIR road course. Yes, it is not a dirt track or even roundy round but there is trash off the track that nicks up the paint and sometimes someone gets too close, a little rubbing, some trading of paint and the occasional wreck or going off the track. If you are under the impression just because this is a road course and that adrenaline is not flowing and someone gets too aggressive that things don't happen... think again! Stuff happens.!!! I am all for racing these cars, but I would not put a high dollar paint job on that type of car, in fact I don't put one on my Malibu just because I know stuff happens and life is too short to cry over a stupid paint job and the money I spent on it!!!
I am glad to hear that Hagerty has no problem with the salvage title and I am interested in seeing this car become a road course / street car!!!
 
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Bill,

I have spent plenty of time up at VIR road course. Yes, it is not a dirt track or even roundy round but there is trash off the track that nicks up the paint and sometimes someone gets too close, a little rubbing, some trading of paint and the occasional wreck or going off the track. If you are under the impression just because this is a road course and that adrenaline is not flowing and someone gets too aggressive that things don't happen... think again! Stuff happens.!!! I am all for racing these cars, but I would not put a high dollar paint job on that type of car, in fact I don't put one on my Malibu just because I know stuff happens and life is too short to cry over a stupid paint job and the money I spent on it!!!
I am glad to hear that Hagerty has no problem with the salvage title and I am interested in seeing this car become a road course / street car!!!
Point taken. I was not intending to put an expensive paint job on it. Just concerned over putting money (probably a significant amount) into a car that has that stigma attached to it. For example, I saw a car for sale in CA that would have been perfect. Nice paint, cowl hood, full interior, etc. The guy had to keep lowering his price to sell it. Last I saw it was down to $5000. It had a salvage title. This car should have been twice that.
 
I am stuptified Hagerty told you they would insure it, because I am pretty sure they have a clause that they will not insure any car with a roll cage. I would never insure a car with hagerty after the run around they gave me when I was trying to insure one of my cars awhile back.
 
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