in your opinion, what american car manufacture produced
the baddest muscle ever made that the public could purchase?
the baddest muscle ever made that the public could purchase?
Baddest factory muscle car
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Okay
Once you get the pony cars, sports cars, and factory race cars sorted out
(68 hemi Dart is a race car----not intended for the street)
I still have to fly with Chrysler Corp.
Sure---Chebby did the 283-283 in 57, with their biggest engine
But Chrysler came out with 390/392 in the same year----over 100 hp greater than GM
Ya might want to say the GTO is the first Muscle Car:noway:
the 57 Rebel was the first intermediate with the large engine.
But--for the first (and I still think the greatest) muscle
The Letter Series Chrysler 300 cars
Available in White only 55-56
Black, Red, White thru at least 61
Dual quad Hemi standard thru 58
Dual quad crossram 413 59-64
tho the 65 was slightly detuned---would still run like a bandit.
Do not confuse these cars with the standard 300 cars---which for the most part was just a trim level (62-71)
I had a pair of 440/4spd Chrysler 300s in the late 70s/early 80s
both were 67 with the TNT engines
One had a lot of creature comforts
The other
440/4spd--disc brakes--3:7? posi--taxicab hubcaps--bucket seats--7leaf rear springs---oversize front torsion bars
Not included was
radio--heater--center console--undercoat--insulation
True unpretentious sleeper car (stolen in 89)
Once you get the pony cars, sports cars, and factory race cars sorted out
(68 hemi Dart is a race car----not intended for the street)
I still have to fly with Chrysler Corp.
Sure---Chebby did the 283-283 in 57, with their biggest engine
But Chrysler came out with 390/392 in the same year----over 100 hp greater than GM
Ya might want to say the GTO is the first Muscle Car:noway:
the 57 Rebel was the first intermediate with the large engine.
But--for the first (and I still think the greatest) muscle
The Letter Series Chrysler 300 cars
Available in White only 55-56
Black, Red, White thru at least 61
Dual quad Hemi standard thru 58
Dual quad crossram 413 59-64
tho the 65 was slightly detuned---would still run like a bandit.
Do not confuse these cars with the standard 300 cars---which for the most part was just a trim level (62-71)
I had a pair of 440/4spd Chrysler 300s in the late 70s/early 80s
both were 67 with the TNT engines
One had a lot of creature comforts
The other
440/4spd--disc brakes--3:7? posi--taxicab hubcaps--bucket seats--7leaf rear springs---oversize front torsion bars
Not included was
radio--heater--center console--undercoat--insulation
True unpretentious sleeper car (stolen in 89)
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1970 LS6 Chevelle!!
The ones from Randall AMC in Mesa Arizona would smoke about everything mentioned here!HOFFBUG, THAT PACER IS BAD-ASS l
MAYBE YOU SHOULD CALL WAYNE'S WORLD AND CHALLENGE
THEM TO A DRAG RACE !:boxing:
Remember AMC won the trans am championship twice in the early 70's
Im surprised nobody mentioned the 69 S/C Rambler. My friend has one and that thing will put you in the backseat. The car he owns was around here all my life . The original owner still lives down the road from me. I remember riding in it when I was about 10 years old.
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1) '66 Cobra 427
2) '67 Corvette L-88
3) '70 Chevelle SS454 LS-6
2) '67 Corvette L-88
3) '70 Chevelle SS454 LS-6
I think that would be the 1970 LS-6 Chevelle SS!!!
I remember back in the 90s, I think it was Hot Rod or Car Craft, did a story on the "meanest factory muscle car ever". They picked the 70 LS6 Chevelle. A show not long ago on I think it was Speed picked the Boss 429 followed very closely by the LS6 Chevelle. Those were bone stock.
A friend of mine "lived" on Woodward ave. when it peaked as the Big 3 test track back in the late 60s early 70s. Seen a lot of races and was in a lot of races. He says the baddest factory cars were the 396/375 hp Novas, a lot of the Mopars (the old ugly 62&63s) were baddass. He says the stock factory Hemi Cudas & Challangers were "slugs".
My experience in the late 70s on Gratiot ave. was the 340 6 pack & 440 6 pack Mopars were very fast, Boss 302s ran very well. Most of the other Fords werent s&#t. Never seen a Boss 429 or LS6 then. My buddy's 69 SS396 with headers and nonstock intake ran with the best of them. Thats the car that converted me from a Ford freak to a Chevelle.
A friend of mine "lived" on Woodward ave. when it peaked as the Big 3 test track back in the late 60s early 70s. Seen a lot of races and was in a lot of races. He says the baddest factory cars were the 396/375 hp Novas, a lot of the Mopars (the old ugly 62&63s) were baddass. He says the stock factory Hemi Cudas & Challangers were "slugs".
My experience in the late 70s on Gratiot ave. was the 340 6 pack & 440 6 pack Mopars were very fast, Boss 302s ran very well. Most of the other Fords werent s&#t. Never seen a Boss 429 or LS6 then. My buddy's 69 SS396 with headers and nonstock intake ran with the best of them. Thats the car that converted me from a Ford freak to a Chevelle.
:yes::yes::yes:
Stage I - 510 ft/lbs torque...
Like the tag says, Boys....
I've seen with my own eyes a DOHC 427 Ford. I can't even describe how it looked. Kinda like a Mopar 426 on steroids. Bigger and meaner looking. I was also told that they only put them in a couple 67 Fairlanes. (actual number unknown) That's why I said that car. I heard this from more than one source as well. I'll have to dig up something on this.
GS400 Stage 1
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70 LS 6 was probably the badest ever produced.
The first muscle car and badest because there were no others was the 1964 GTO 383 tri-power 4 speed. John DeLorean almost lost his job because of this car.
Thank you John, RIP
The first muscle car and badest because there were no others was the 1964 GTO 383 tri-power 4 speed. John DeLorean almost lost his job because of this car.
Thank you John, RIP
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If all these cars count, then what about the first generation Royal Bobcat GTOs?
11.2 compression in a stout 389, and 0-60 in 4.6?
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11.2 compression in a stout 389, and 0-60 in 4.6?
GTO'S ARE COOL, BUT A LS6 CHEVELLE IS NASTIER ! AS TO WHAT CAR WAS THE FIRST MUSCLE CAR, I'D HAVE TO SAY THE 1949 OLDS ROCKET 88. :yes:
IT HAD THE NEWEST ENGINE DESIGN IN A LIGHTER BODY.
THE ENGINE WAS AMERICA'S FIRST HIGH COMPRESSION OVERHEAD VALVE V8!
IT HAD THE NEWEST ENGINE DESIGN IN A LIGHTER BODY.
THE ENGINE WAS AMERICA'S FIRST HIGH COMPRESSION OVERHEAD VALVE V8!
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50 FASTEST MUSCLECARS
Well? What do you think? Is it legit first of all? I saw a couple things that might not make complete sense. There aren't too many Fords in there, that's for sure.
Well? What do you think? Is it legit first of all? I saw a couple things that might not make complete sense. There aren't too many Fords in there, that's for sure.
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Alan, did it look anything like:
http://www.geocities.com/infieldg/images/64-indy.jpg
With all gear drive and no chains like
http://www.geocities.com/infieldg/images/64-indy-gears.jpg
Then what you saw was the Ford Indy V8 which was based off their small block, but with a smaller displacement to fit the rules. Never made in a 427 size.
The 427 SOHC looks like:
http://www.geocities.com/infieldg/images/427sohc.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/infieldg/images/427sohc-chains.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/infieldg/images/427cutaway.gif
I think I see that it was the single 4 bbl rated at 616 hp, and the dual quad at 658 hp.
Thomas
http://www.geocities.com/infieldg/images/64-indy.jpg
With all gear drive and no chains like
http://www.geocities.com/infieldg/images/64-indy-gears.jpg
Then what you saw was the Ford Indy V8 which was based off their small block, but with a smaller displacement to fit the rules. Never made in a 427 size.
The 427 SOHC looks like:
http://www.geocities.com/infieldg/images/427sohc.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/infieldg/images/427sohc-chains.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/infieldg/images/427cutaway.gif
I think I see that it was the single 4 bbl rated at 616 hp, and the dual quad at 658 hp.
Thomas
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