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Doing my 66 396 MalibuSS (canadian car) back to original for a couple reasons. 1 they only made 499 of them. 2 car is documented and I have protecto plate. 3 I buy and sell big blocks (have had about 100) and now have all of the motor (even starter and alt.) dated within a month. 4 car was originally cypress green and will be when done, gotta be a rare color. 5 body wasnt in bad shape and frame/underside of car were done when I bought it. I also have a 67SS that will eventually go back to stock (gotts put the 650HP 509 in it first) just because car was loaded with options (have interior broadcast sheet) headrest buckets, remote dr. mirror, disc brakes, turbo 400, AM-FM, 8track with 4 speakers and a few more. And will be looking for a clean 66 malibu in the future to make a clone to drop my 95% complete (just missing dist) dated 66 375HP motor in.
 
Im doing a 66 Elco frame off. Car wasn't anything special and is so far from stock that its not really worth it to go bone stock. Car has a set of buckets with a consol and a repro SS gauge cluster. Will be a clean ride with lots of new parts that will get driven lots.
 
Factory sheetmetal and rearends are absolutely out of site. I think it's all you guys selling your SS hoods for 800 minimum Mike! :D
Seriously though those above mentioned items and numbers/dates correct parts have become extremely expensive. I wound up having to use reproduction floors and quarters d/t costs and made a couple of other changes I might not have done. Bought NOS stuff only when I found a deal too good to pass up. Needless to say...my bone stock resto has suddenly become a resto-mod. About 70 percent there now, depending upon the winter here will likely be ready for paint first part of June next year. Thank GOD I can do virtually all mechanical and paint and body, or this car would still be fodder.
 
This post bums me out that my original drive train was long gone when I bought my SS. I wish I had the engine and trans and could then justify the expense to restore it correctly. To the rest of you, keep it up as there are not many left:thumbsup:
 
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Mike

PLEASE don't let your lack of an original drivetrain dictate how to restore your car.. As far as I know, it will cost you no more and no less to do a just as nice, just as correct and always with QUALITY job, restoration on a car with NOM and Trans.

Not a factor in my opinion.
 
Im doing a 66 Elco frame off. Car wasn't anything special and is so far from stock that its not really worth it to go bone stock. Car has a set of buckets with a consol and a repro SS gauge cluster. Will be a clean ride with lots of new parts that will get driven lots.
Same here---'cept had a bench
Had a 307 in it when I got it, and runs great so I will keep it
Gettin' a 5-spd, buckets and tilt.
Painted the firewall body color with a flattener.
SS hood on the way:D

Intend to use it as a commuter
 
Good question Mike ......I'm one of those who started to do full stock resto but fell off the wagon cause I wanted to drive and enjoy it ...... BUT I am quietly gathering the last of those hard to find parts to put it back to 100% stock kinda looking forward to pulling the body off to redo chassis /engine I'm lucky have all the original drivetrain etcetc & documentation .Rear rocker mld & manifolds !!!!!! are my biggest challenge have pretty much everything else when that will be not exactly sure but I know the day coming so Mike yes one day BAM out will come my stocker :) ......realize now should have had 2 cars one to play with and one to enjoy and preserve for its originality
 
I am restoring my 67SS back to all original. It is very hard to find some of the little things and when you do, they can be rather pricey. Seems the 66-67 vettes shared some of the 66-67 Chevelle componets. My car will not be driven but trailered, thats why I have my 70. My biggest obsticle now along with cash...is just getting out there to finish it. I'm getting burned out. I'm almost there... I've had the carb. back for a couple of weeks. The battery came today and I painted the radiator last night. I can see light at the end of the tunnel :). Maybe (fire) this weekend.
 
I would guess if the car was compete and fairly original it could be enjoyable.
If youre into correct bolts and replating them it can add up.

I like seeing them but wound up going aftermarket on everything .Little more expensive but the parts are available. Never figured the car would be worth anything (didnt care either), just made it the way I wanted it.
Better than blowing it in a bar, what the heck...

Edit: Some parts are expensive and hard to find. SS dash plate for example...wound up making a little piece and blocking off (and blacking out)the park indicator and adding SS gauges.
Not willing to pay $100 or more for a part I have to refinish, or $350 to rechrome tailight housings. Everyones different though.
 
Seb,I gotta say..I have seen some high dollar resto ($60-80K) cars that are not as nice as your 66!
I have been around these cars all my life and your 66 is in my top 10 cars of people I know..including some real anal Olds and Buick guys that are just over the top :)
 
Had an interesting conversation this weekend about full blown stock restos....Anyway, I was just curious, how many guys here are doing what they consider that type of restoration?

66 or 67 only. and how far are you along and what barriers are you facing?

Mike Crown
Mine isn't a full blown stock restoration, but moreso a somewhat stock-appearing restoration with a few personal concessions.

Progress?...mechanicals are basically done, car is ready for the "de-bugging" phase, then it can come back apart (at least partially, anyhow) for final detail, body work & paint.

The biggest barriers? That one's easy, I can sum up my experience in that regards in three simple words; "garbage reproduction parts."

Even putting aside cost considerations, some parts I needed simply weren't available, so I was forced to make do with a variety of repop items...at least, temporarily.

I have yet to find an accurate term to describe how bad most of these parts were in regards to both quality and fit.

Needless to say, I'll never make those compromises again. I don't care how badly I need some certain items, if good used or NOS parts aren't available, the project will sit until original parts can be obtained.

Eric
 
The parts to accurately restore one are almost gone. I started with a group of them and robbed all the best parts and put one togather. Then I took it apart and started over .
I realized early on if a guy did not hurry this would not be possible without buying a lot of repop parts?
I concetrated on sheet metal.
When the time comes it was not a big loss for me.
I thought the stock ones could use some improvements such as Disc brakes
Drive train 454 engine 400 turbo trans 12 bolt three inch exhaust even changed the dash as I never could tolerate the cables on the heat and air units breaking
I went late model With what I thought to be some much needed improvements.
I admire the meticulous Stock cars that some go three days looking for that one bolt.
It has its place. I always keep my eye out for that stuff.
I had no problem selling the short water pump stuff and AC.
It helped me buy one a lot more efficent. IMO 1966 CHEVELLE SS owner
One of the advantages of being older is recognizing the stuff. I have no thoughts of going to that extreme Unless I truly had a #s correct car to restore I would not worry.
 
The biggest barriers? That one's easy, I can sum up my experience in that regards in three simple words; "garbage reproduction parts."
Well said Eric. I have sympathy for anyone trying to put together a nice car with those crap parts. It's difficult enough to build a sweet car with original parts. At least it was for me... :rolleyes:

I was fortunate when building my 67, as it was a very low mile car with almost all original parts. I also collected a stash of nice used & NOS parts for the better part of 10 years while waiting to restore it. Most folks today aren't as lucky. Prices of good used & NOS parts have inflated faster than the cars have! :eek:

Luckily for me, the parts that weren't usable on my Chevelle were some of the better resto pieces available. Interior trim, hoses, emblems, & weatherstripping are very comparable to the originals. In some cases, some parts are nicer than the orignals, e.g. Sunvisor supports, & vent window handles.

I don't envy anyone who needs sheet metal, nice original or NOS exterior moldings, nevermind a set of bucket seats. :sad:

My next car will be bought finished, as it's cheaper than building one. IMHO, there is no way to build a NICE one from scratch for less than $45k, unless you are a bodyman/painter & have a stash of GOOD parts to assemble it with.
 
Hey Mike...There's no progress on my Chevelle. I can't stop driving it long enough to do anything! (It's a sickness you know!;))
 
Yep, I enjoyed the "bone stock" thing for a few years as Mike Crown and a few other 66 guys know. But got a wild hair in Feb. 08 and just finished my car for 2nd time 2 weeks ago. I went pro touring and am gonna drive it like I stole it. No more sitting/babysitting at indoor or outdoor car shows. My car wasnt numbers matching but it was correct. Remember these cars were made to drive! I have joined the dark side!
 
Every one has there own oppion,but as far as I am concerned, if you have something to work with, stock is the only way to go. Most of mine was already there just needed a few odds and ends. Still looking for some of them. With the help of this site, things are comming together. There are really some great and knowledgable people on here. The worst problem I have had is matching the color (Aztec Bronze). The interior is Bronze also, and alot of places when you ask for interior parts, in that color just say you want WHAT! So this has really been a big problem. So with your alls help I will try and finish this project. So let me Thank the ones that have already helped. I will also Thank the ones who will be helping in the future, as I still have alot of questions. Thanks Gary 66/Bronze
 
Every one has there own oppion,but as far as I am concerned, if you have something to work with, stock is the only way to go. Most of mine was already there just needed a few odds and ends. Still looking for some of them. With the help of this site, things are comming together. There are really some great and knowledgable people on here. The worst problem I have had is matching the color (Aztec Bronze). The interior is Bronze also, and alot of places when you ask for interior parts, in that color just say you want WHAT! So this has really been a big problem. So with your alls help I will try and finish this project. So let me Thank the ones that have already helped. I will also Thank the ones who will be helping in the future, as I still have alot of questions. Thanks Gary 66/Bronze
That's it Gary....don't get discouraged! :thumbsup:
 
Yep, I enjoyed the "bone stock" thing for a few years as Mike Crown and a few other 66 guys know. But got a wild hair in Feb. 08 and just finished my car for 2nd time 2 weeks ago. I went pro touring and am gonna drive it like I stole it. No more sitting/babysitting at indoor or outdoor car shows. My car wasnt numbers matching but it was correct. Remember these cars were made to drive! I have joined the dark side!
Frank, Say it isn't so!. Just kidding. I remember your great looking car from Carlisle in 07.

If I put on my original wheels with the F70 Redlines on and don't open the hood its bone stock. But bringing the engine back to stock/original isn't something I want to do. But I do have my eye on a 66 SS survivor - maybe someday...
 
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