I know there are some tech articles here but I just couldn't find them. I recall reading that the cove was painted in some plants and not others. I've also read that darker cars had a white cove ( my ermine white 63 Nova SS had a silver cove). So, who can help me find some of the more informative or opinionated threads on this ? Thanks !
Rear Cove Paint 65/66
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I know there are some tech articles here but I just couldn't find them. I recall reading that the cove was painted in some plants and not others. I've also read that darker cars had a white cove ( my ermine white 63 Nova SS had a silver cove). So, who can help me find some of the more informative or opinionated threads on this ? Thanks !
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I've personally written on this topic too many times to mention.
What have you read that makes you unsure?
In a nut shell.. 66 SS's built in ATL. EARLY CARS.. had Rear Black out Panel.. Original Literature shows this.. but as demand grew for the New 66.. GM saw this step in painting the rear cove as a time burden.. so it was halted early on in prouduction. That doesn't mean other plants were not doing it early, but ATL. seemed to do more.
1967 SS cars all got rear panel black out and as such.. some Late 66's are known to have gotten the treatment as plants geared up again...
Of note... as the orig. Sales Literature showed this black out panel, many customers were not happy to receive their car without it... No Problem, DEALERS would gladly paint it and many did so.. though the dealers painted it a bit differently.. in regards to a tape line.
Again, a nut shell.. and I speak of 66 Chevelle Super Sports, not any other year and not Malibus.
Mike Crown
What have you read that makes you unsure?
In a nut shell.. 66 SS's built in ATL. EARLY CARS.. had Rear Black out Panel.. Original Literature shows this.. but as demand grew for the New 66.. GM saw this step in painting the rear cove as a time burden.. so it was halted early on in prouduction. That doesn't mean other plants were not doing it early, but ATL. seemed to do more.
1967 SS cars all got rear panel black out and as such.. some Late 66's are known to have gotten the treatment as plants geared up again...
Of note... as the orig. Sales Literature showed this black out panel, many customers were not happy to receive their car without it... No Problem, DEALERS would gladly paint it and many did so.. though the dealers painted it a bit differently.. in regards to a tape line.
Again, a nut shell.. and I speak of 66 Chevelle Super Sports, not any other year and not Malibus.
Mike Crown
Thanks, Mike. What you posted above lends me to believe that any original paint car would be correct with or without the black cove. I've read the Bill Smith article in tech. Do you or anyone else have similar info on the 65's ? My 65 (late Baltimore) does NOT have the cove paint. Thanks again for your time.
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i have a nov 66 SS bult in balt. and took it down to bare metal. and removed the original sliver paint. and found black over red primer on the rear panel. but the car was repainted a couple of times. and i found red primer on the whole car under all the paint.
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In the same magazine that I have there is one ad with the tail end blacked out and the other is body colour. Even GM people couldn't make up their minds.
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Nice story, but I'll have say show me a survivor with a blacked out panel and maby I'll buy the story. Otherwise...:noway: Nice attempt at trying to rationalize the myth...
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Orlando:
Not sure what exactly you have been trying to do, what your agenda is, other then trying to Bait me into Fighting with you on this Bulletin Board lately... You contribute ZILCH to this site as far as I can see, you won't step up and become a PAYING MEMBER, you respond only to anything that has to do with an L-78 66 Chevelle, or something that I have responded to, that you disagree with..... and then it's just sarcasm and snide remarks, or the occasional backing of one of your BEST FRIENDS who happens to be selling a Chevelle or have a possible L-78 Chevelle.
I will ask everyone who reads here to serach your posts via your profile and see what I am talking about..... you are waste of bandwidth!
You want to fight with me.. I can see that... and that's fine..Bring it On! but here is not the place to air out your dirty laundry and issues that you have with me personally.. Some day we will meet in person, Face to Face, Man to Man and I will welcome your snide remarks to my face, in fact I invite them. I hope you will do so.....It's real easy to have Keyboard Muscles...
You have been begging for me to reply to you smart ass remarks for a few months now..(just look back at his most recent posts people)..... Okay.. you got it...BUT out of respect to AL and all the others here, I have not done so and I won't continue to do this after today., because it is counterproductive to argue with someone like you and Al and Dean and the mods. won't stand for. This is not what we are about here, so crawl back under your Rock!
There are many people on this site and across the US that know me and the person that I am. I have helped countless numbers of people over the years and I will continue to do so. I don't really care if you like me, whether you agree with things I say or not..I don't need to show you my records, my photos, my documentation, or anything else.. and I won't. Funny though, I was one of then guys you sent all your docs to for a stamp of approval some years ago?? but yet, now I apparently only talk of myths and meaningless words.... You are entitled to your opinion. I need you like I need a piece of crap on the botttom of my shoe.. which is what you are to me.
So, I hope you are happy... you accomplished what you set out to do.. you got me to respond.. BUT, this is where it ends!!!... I will look forward to meeting you in person one day.. You do Amuse me.
Not sure what exactly you have been trying to do, what your agenda is, other then trying to Bait me into Fighting with you on this Bulletin Board lately... You contribute ZILCH to this site as far as I can see, you won't step up and become a PAYING MEMBER, you respond only to anything that has to do with an L-78 66 Chevelle, or something that I have responded to, that you disagree with..... and then it's just sarcasm and snide remarks, or the occasional backing of one of your BEST FRIENDS who happens to be selling a Chevelle or have a possible L-78 Chevelle.
I will ask everyone who reads here to serach your posts via your profile and see what I am talking about..... you are waste of bandwidth!
You want to fight with me.. I can see that... and that's fine..Bring it On! but here is not the place to air out your dirty laundry and issues that you have with me personally.. Some day we will meet in person, Face to Face, Man to Man and I will welcome your snide remarks to my face, in fact I invite them. I hope you will do so.....It's real easy to have Keyboard Muscles...
You have been begging for me to reply to you smart ass remarks for a few months now..(just look back at his most recent posts people)..... Okay.. you got it...BUT out of respect to AL and all the others here, I have not done so and I won't continue to do this after today., because it is counterproductive to argue with someone like you and Al and Dean and the mods. won't stand for. This is not what we are about here, so crawl back under your Rock!
There are many people on this site and across the US that know me and the person that I am. I have helped countless numbers of people over the years and I will continue to do so. I don't really care if you like me, whether you agree with things I say or not..I don't need to show you my records, my photos, my documentation, or anything else.. and I won't. Funny though, I was one of then guys you sent all your docs to for a stamp of approval some years ago?? but yet, now I apparently only talk of myths and meaningless words.... You are entitled to your opinion. I need you like I need a piece of crap on the botttom of my shoe.. which is what you are to me.
So, I hope you are happy... you accomplished what you set out to do.. you got me to respond.. BUT, this is where it ends!!!... I will look forward to meeting you in person one day.. You do Amuse me.
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I have yet to see an original paint '65 SS that DIDN'T have the rear cove painted. Some folks claim their '65 SS cars didn't ever have a black cove, yet they always also state that the car has been repainted once or twice.....
The issue with '66 cars was due to manufacturers not being able to keep up with demand and the plants looking for way to speed up the build process. While a LOT of SS cars were built in '65 too, no such problems seemed to have existed in '65.
Bottom line: all '65 SS cars should have a painted rear cove and a painted grill. These details are missed quite often on so-called "fully restored" cars.
On the '65 SS, the rear cove should be satin black on all but black, dark green and dark blue cars. On dark blue, dark green and black cars the cove was painted satin silver. The center of the rear of the trunklid where the letters CHEVROLET are should be body color, only the recessed area surrounding the taillights and above and below the heavy diecast trim on the trunklid should be black or silver.
The issue with '66 cars was due to manufacturers not being able to keep up with demand and the plants looking for way to speed up the build process. While a LOT of SS cars were built in '65 too, no such problems seemed to have existed in '65.
Bottom line: all '65 SS cars should have a painted rear cove and a painted grill. These details are missed quite often on so-called "fully restored" cars.
On the '65 SS, the rear cove should be satin black on all but black, dark green and dark blue cars. On dark blue, dark green and black cars the cove was painted satin silver. The center of the rear of the trunklid where the letters CHEVROLET are should be body color, only the recessed area surrounding the taillights and above and below the heavy diecast trim on the trunklid should be black or silver.
My '66 ss is a Kan built car Dec. of '65 and had the black cove when new. I will never know if it was dealer or factory done, there are no pics of the tape lines and it was re painted in 1981 with the cove painted black again. I do have pics of the car new in '66 that shows it. Not sure about '65s.
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Wow Mike,
You sure get pretty mean when you find yourself on the defensive end of things. My advice to you is don't let your emotions get the best of you.
If you let the little things get to you, the big things will kill you...Take it easy brother, its not that deep...just talking cars...thats all. :thumbsup:
The best way to deal with disagreements is to justify your position...present your facts...Not too difficult...right? So save yourself the grief and defend your position like an intellectual. No need for the juvenile comments and remarks. Now lets see your data tough guy
To those that are sticking to the substance of the thread, I also have heard alot about the blacked out rear panel. Until a survivor car surfaces, the concept will remain a myth. :beers:
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Hmmmm - everything that I know about the '65 SS indicates a blacked out cove.... I was right in the middle of the 'car wars' of the sixties and remember the blacked out '65 SS (it was a favorite of mine) and Terry Boice' book on the Chevy Super Sports indicates that the blacked out rear was indicative of an SS......
I don't think I need a 'survivor car' to surface to consider it very common for SS cars to have this feature.
I don't think I need a 'survivor car' to surface to consider it very common for SS cars to have this feature.
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Anybody else see the irony here?
Or here??
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(Yeah.... I ignored it all.)
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Well, this well respected guy seems to have some pretty solid evidence; he saw his car come off the transport in 1966 with a factory painted rear panel in black:
http://www.chevelles.com/years/66/rearpanel.html
There is plenty of documentation and information on rear black panels on '66 cars if you bother to look for it.
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