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LevonH

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My neighbour has one of these motors in his 2003 Suburban It has DTC's
(P0171 & P0174) which point to intake gaskets.

Apparently there is a GM TSB for this and I was hoping someone may have access to it and be able to share it. Alternatively is there somewhere we could obtain the details???

Once again all help is appreciated.
 
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Subject: Cold Engine Idle Misfire Or DTCs P0171 P0174 - keywords 4.8 5.3 6.0 air cold crack hesitate idle intermittent internal intake leak lean misfire miss P0171 P0174 P0300 power rough surge vacuum #PIP3232B - (02/07/2007)



Models: 2002-2005 Cadillac Escalade

1999-2005 Chevrolet Avalanche, Express, Silverado, Suburban, Tahoe, Trailblazer

1999-2005 GMC Savana, Sierra, Yukon

2003-2005 Hummer H2




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This PI was superseded to update parts information. Please discard PIP3232A.


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The following diagnosis might be helpful if the vehicle exhibits the symptom(s) described in this PI.

Condition/Concern:
99 through 05 GEN III truck engines may experience any of the following:

A cold rough idle that diminishes as the engine warms up.
Possible DTCS P0171, P0174, or P0300.
Random misfires at idle.
Recommendation/Instructions:
The intake gasket seals may be leaking around the intake ports, causing a lean condition. The intake gasket seals may leak around the bottom side of the port, making it a challenge to detect the vacuum leak. The technician may also notice lower than normal MAF readings if the intake seals are leaking.

If leaking intake gasket seals are found, replace the intake gaskets. During the repair be sure to use the current GMSPO part number for replacement intake gaskets. The current GMSPO part number for intake gaskets will have a teal green intake gasket seal. The old version of the intake gaskets were orange in color. Use only the teal green colored gaskets for a repair.
The intake plenum should also be checked for excessive warpage that may cause an uneven clamping pressure of the seal. If the plenum is found to be warped it will need to be replaced. Service Information states, "An intake manifold with warpage in excess of 3 mm (0.118 in) over a 200 mm (7.87 in) area should be replaced". Intake warpage is measured at the gasket sealing surfaces, and should be measured within a 200 mm (7.87 in) area. This measurement is across only two of the intake runner port openings. Measurements taken across the entire distance of all four intake runner ports will lead to unnecessary manifold replacements.
Please follow this diagnostic or repair process thoroughly and complete each step. If the condition exhibited is resolved without completing every step, the remaining steps do not need to be performed.



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Document ID# 1899786
2003 Chevrolet Chevy Suburban - 4WD
 
Discussion starter · #3 ·
Hi Dave. Thanks much.

Does anyone know if GM has one of those "hidden warranties" on this issue???
 
Hidden warranty?? If you're talking recall, no. If you're under factory or extended warranty, shouldn't be a problem. If you're under like 60000 miles, sometimes the service manager can goodwill a repair IF it has been an ongoing problem, or you might call Chevrolet at 1-800-222-1020 (or is it 2010??) the Customer relations dept. and talk to them about getting some assistance.
 
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