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I did a search and didn't find anything. I'm sure it's in here somewhere though.

I have 3 friends that I'm discussing fuel line with. Two of them are telling me it's ok to run aluminum fuel line, which I've never heard of. The other has run the whole way to the tank in RUBBER line! I told him that tech allows only 12" total line. Is this correct? How strict is this within reason on a street car? Obviously the whole line in rubber is ridiculous, and I have been trying to tell him that.

I should note that the aluminum lined car is not a drag car and will likely never see the strip. The rubber lined car has a cage and everything as it's a GTO gasser.

Also as a side note, is 12.99 the cut off for needing a roll bar?
 
Alum line is fine. You are correct about the rubber, 12" max total. Getting through tech with more is hit or miss.

11.99 is cutoff for a roll bar. 13.99 for convertables.
 
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You can use that Blue rubber looking fuel line,with press on fittings. For the rollbar, IHRA is 11.49, one of our local tracks is 11.79, the other has nothing down in there rules but refers to the NHRA rulebook which is 11.99.
 
The basic items needed to pass tech inspection for the typical street car include good tires,dual throttle return springs, a battery tie-down, radiator overflow catch-can, operable neutral-safety switch,all wheel studs must be in good condition,no more than 12" of neoprene hose, operating seat belts, and a valid state driver's license or NHRA competition license is required for all participants. Don’t forget to wear long pants, shoes, and a shirt!

A helmet is one of the first safety items that you may need to purchase.I think you will find that most tracks insurance will require one regardless of ET. The NHRA rules state that.. Any vehicle that runs faster than 13.99 seconds, and all motorcycles and dune buggy-type cars, must have an approved helmet. Helmets that meet NHRA requirements include those that have a SNELL approval of 90 or 95, as well as those with an SFI rating of 31.1, 31.2, 41.1, or 41.2.

The following is a list of major items that are required as specific ET’s and speeds. This list is a guideline, and we recommend consulting a current NHRA rulebook for specific details, specifications, and diagrams.

13.99 seconds
- Drive Line Loop with slicks (13.00 with street tires)
- Approved helmet and roll bar in convertibles
- SFI seat belts in convertibles

11.99 seconds
- SFI approved jacket and roll bar
- SFI approved seat belts
- SFI Flywheel / Clutch / Bellhousing Steel Valve Stems / Arm Restraints (open cars)

10.99 seconds or Super Stree
- SFI Transmission Shield,
or at 135 mph - Aftermarket axles
- SFI Harmonic Balancer
- Roll Cage with altered floor pans,
or 135 mph - Window net required
- Ignition cut-off on all bikes / snowmobiles that exceed 135 mph

9.99 seconds or Super Gas or 135 mph
- NHRA Chassis Certification
- NHRA Competition License
- SFI neck collar
- SFI gloves SFI flexplate / flexplate shield

150 mph
Parachute.

HERE IS A LITTLE BATTERY ADVICE...


I have a street car that I occasionally run at the strip. I've relocated the battery to the rear. What else do I need?

Any car with a relocated battery must be equipped with a master electrical cutoff, capable of stopping all electrical functions including ignition (must shut the engine off, as well as fuel pumps, etc.). The switch must be located on the rear of the vehicle, with the "off" position clearly marked. If the switch is of a "push / pull" type, then "push" must be the motion that shuts off the switch, and plastic or "keyed" typed switches are prohibited. Also, the battery must be completely sealed from the driver and/or driver compartment. This means a metal bulkhead must separate the trunk from the driver compartment, or the battery must be located in a sealed, metal box constructed of minimum .024 inch steel or .032 inch aluminum, or in an NHRA accepted plastic box. In cars with a conventional trunk, metal can simply be installed behind the rear seat and under the package tray to effectively seal the battery off from the driver. In a hatchback type vehicle the battery box is usually the easiest solution, since the alternative is to fabricate a bulkhead which seals to the hatch when closed. At present, Moroso is the only company which offers an NHRA accepted plastic battery box, part number 74050.


But I drive on the street. I don't want a big cut off switch hanging on the back.

This solution takes a little work, but it solves the problem. Install the master cutoff inside the vehicle, positioned "sideways" so that the toggle moves forward and back. Drill a hole in the toggle handle, and attach a steel rod that will run out the back of the car, through a hole drilled completely through one tail light assembly. Have a spare tail light assembly on hand, so when you come home from the drags, you remove the rod and put the cherry tail light back in for street cruising. Next time you plan on going to the drag strip, swap lights and reinstall the rod. Since the drilled light is for the strip only, you can also have it marked "PUSH OFF" in big letters so the Tech Inspectors will think you're cool.
 
Originally posted by chadh5:

What is this blue rubber fuel line you speak of?
It aint blue neoprene..
Its called "pushlock" or "socketless" hose..

SOCKETLESSTM Hose (FBV/FBN)

A high performing, lightweight alternative to stainless steel braided hose. Manufactured by Eaton using our patented AQP inner tube, offering 300Âş temperature rating and unsurpassed fluid compatibility. Use with Aeroquip's SOCKETLESS fittings---no clamp or wrench needed! Applications include fuel, lube, coolant and air. Available in blue or black.

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It requires special ends...

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Originally posted by hoffbug:
Originally posted by chadh5:
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What is this blue rubber fuel line you speak of?
It aint blue neoprene..
Its called "pushlock" or "socketless" hose..

SOCKETLESSTM Hose (FBV/FBN)

"A high performing, lightweight alternative to stainless steel braided hose. Manufactured by Eaton using our patented AQP inner tube, offering 300Âş temperature rating and unsurpassed fluid compatibility. Use with Aeroquip's SOCKETLESS fittings---no clamp or wrench needed! Applications include fuel, lube, coolant and air. Available in blue or black."


This doesn't fall under the 12" rule?
It's not hard line or stainless, probably better than regular hose but still..........
I'm pretty sure no Chevelle would pass that rule from the factory IF they count the lines from tank to frame and from frame to pump.
Or is it just lines under pressure?
 
I am pretty sure the inner core of the puch lock hose has an inner steel braid, just with rubber on the out side. I know there are a few different push lock hoses that are legal. The NHRA rule book lists which hoses. The Push lock fittings are also about 1/2 the price of braided fittings, atleast they are at my local industrial supply place.

Does anybody know if IHRA differs at all? I know last year my cousin was getting hasseled for aluminum line at our local IHRA track. Tired to explain the rule states, Metallic line, not steel. But how does it work for copper? It's metallic but fatigues very easily and should never be used as fuel line.

Steve
 
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Section 1.5 of the 2004 NHRA rulebook...

"LINES All non-OEM fuel lines ( including gauge and/or data recorder lines) must be metallic, steel braided, or NHRA accepted "woven or woven pushlock". A maximum of 12 inches total (front to rear) of non metallic or non steel braided hose is permitted for connection purposes only; individual injector nozzle and motorcycle fuel lines are excluded. Fuel lines (except steel braided lines) in the flywheel/bellhousing area must be enclosed in a 16 inch length of steel tubing, 1/8 inch minimum wall thickness, securely mounted as protection against fuel line rupture. Fuel lines may not be routed in the driveshaft tunnel. It is mandatory that fuel lines passing supercharger drive belts be steel braided, NHRA accepted push lock or woven-pushlock, or be enclosed in protective steel tubing.
NHRA accepted woven or woven pushlock fuel lines: Aeroquip FC300, FC332; Aeroquip Star Lite 200; AQP socketless; Earls Prolite; Gates LOL Plus; Goodridge 536;Goodridge 710; Russell Twist-Loc 836 and XRP HS-79; Dayco imperial Nylo-seal tubing. Contact NHRA for updates."
 
Originally posted by wanarace:
But how does it work for copper? It's metallic but fatigues very easily and should never be used as fuel line.
Steve
I always thought copper was bad for most any lines in a car since it would harden with movement and eventually crack and break.
So how does one explain all those chrome fuel lines they've been selling for years?
http://www.jegs.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce3/ProductDisplay?prrfnbr=2362&prmenbr=361

Since I like to tinker on sixes, getting the fuel line to the carb means passing over hot headers. Bugs me to see guys run rubber hose with "one size fits all" filters clamped over top of the exhaust...... :eek:
 
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