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I applogize as I know this has been discussed. But need a little advise. I am doing a frame off on a 70 and will need a wiring kit. Upgrades will be Dakota Digital, Classic Auto Air and electric fans. I talked to M&H and the rep said they do not sell full kits need to just buy all the different components and it would not be compatiable with Dakota Digital and would have to cut one of the plugs off and rewire for the Dakota setup, that seems intimidating. I hear good and bad about AAW and Painless..all good about M & H but concerned about the few add ons i want to put on there. Any advise appreciated.

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I applogize as I know this has been discussed. But need a little advise. I am doing a frame off on a 70 and will need a wiring kit. Upgrades will be Dakota Digital, Classic Auto Air and electric fans. I talked to M&H and the rep said they do not sell full kits need to just buy all the different components and it would not be compatiable with Dakota Digital and would have to cut one of the plugs off and rewire for the Dakota setup, that seems intimidating. I hear good and bad about AAW and Painless..all good about M & H but concerned about the few add ons i want to put on there. Any advise appreciated.

Pat
I had my 69 Camaro rewired by Street Metal Concepts in Florida and they would only use American Autowire.
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I applogize as I know this has been discussed. But need a little advise. I am doing a frame off on a 70 and will need a wiring kit. Upgrades will be Dakota Digital, Classic Auto Air and electric fans. I talked to M&H and the rep said they do not sell full kits need to just buy all the different components and it would not be compatiable with Dakota Digital and would have to cut one of the plugs off and rewire for the Dakota setup, that seems intimidating. I hear good and bad about AAW and Painless..all good about M & H but concerned about the few add ons i want to put on there. Any advise appreciated.

Pat
Doing those upgrades I would use the AAW kit. If it was a stock restore I would use either M&H or Lectric
 
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Pat,
I have done two rewires and both were AAW classic update kits. All in all they are a good product.
Two issues I have with them. Their bayonet style bulb sockets are low quality and I have replaced all mine. They drop bulbs and become dislodged on their own. I know the 70 uses less than the 69 of the bayonet style sockets.
They also used to push renting or buying their crimper saying no other brand crimpers can do the same quality crimps. That is total bullshit. I have the Tool Aid brand crimper and they do a fine job.
 
I applogize as I know this has been discussed. But need a little advise. I am doing a frame off on a 70 and will need a wiring kit. Upgrades will be Dakota Digital, Classic Auto Air and electric fans. I talked to M&H and the rep said they do not sell full kits need to just buy all the different components and it would not be compatiable with Dakota Digital and would have to cut one of the plugs off and rewire for the Dakota setup, that seems intimidating. I hear good and bad about AAW and Painless..all good about M & H but concerned about the few add ons i want to put on there. Any advise appreciated.

Pat
I just completed my 1968, I used American auto wire. Worked out great for me, the complete kit comes with everything you need to do what your doing.
 
AAW is a little easier for factory application. Painless you have to do your homework and plan circuits out but they do give you extra to work aftermarket accessories out.

I haven't done a dedicated to vehicle painless but have AAW. Either is fine and will work fine for your application. Do yourself a favor, get the instructions downloaded for each mfg you want, print them out, and read them. The one that resonates with you and is easy to read is your choice.

If you go with painless they tell you what fuse powers what circuit but in a round about way deep in the instructions.
 
I have done several re-wires, (2) of which recently. I have not used the same supplier twice. All of them have their good and bad points, some have better information than others. Here is what I found on the kits.

Basic hot rod kit from Speedway. This was a generic kit I used on my '60 F100. It was what you paid for, everything was there and it went together pretty quick. Instructions were basic.

Kwik Wire Kit. I put this in my 1938 Chevy pickup. It was a well thought out, easy kit to install. Had good connectors, good schematics and easy to understand installation. This is probably my number one choice as the whole kit was well thought out.

Painless kit in my 1955 Chevy. This car was more of a strip car, so I did use a pro street kit with switch panel. Painless quality in my opinion is over-rated. I have used a number of their relay kits, stop light kits, etc. and have had some failures. The painless wiring kit was 21 circuits which was too many for this car. The problem with Painless is the instructions are confusing, and unless you spend an excess amount of time going over them you could have mistakes. The kit does not include any schematic that can be referenced. I don't know if I would used Painless for a full rewire again. I have also had some failures with this kit and the car has maybe 500 miles on it. Main problem is the whole turn signal circuit had a glitch somewhere and would not get power.

American Auto Wire. in my sons 1955 Chevy. This kit was well put together with pretty good instructions. The only thing I did not like is they break things down into sections, and rather than have a main instruction book, you wire things individually. Unless you are very careful mixing up components from the individual kits is very possible. But if you are meticulous it is a very good kit. This would be my #2 selection, possibly #1 depending on the situation.

I will note, that all the above cars and kits are more "hot rod" than just a straight restoration wiring install. We have items that change a kit or modify the use. These include multiple fans, after market ignitions, additional/non stock gauges, line locs, etc. So all of the kits have been modified to some extent. Each one will do the job, some are just a little better on the details than others.
 
This^^^^. As already mentioned I have swapped all my bayonet sockets to Pico brand after having to remove and replace my 69 instrument panel twice which is a trying installation. You can imagine my frustration to look at my instruments and see bulbs laying at the bottom of the instrument.

My interior has all LED bulbs which are longer than incandescent bulbs. The Pico sockets have a longer socket which works well for LEDs. In addition the Pico bulb sockets for brake lights allow the contacts to rotate independently from the socket body. Cannot be wired backwards because of that feature. The Pico sockets are much higher quality than the AAW bayonet sockets.
 
I got an M&H dash harness for a C10 that is just like the factory but has ATO fuses and extra circuits for things like power seats, fans, etc. I'm not sure if they make the same for a Chevelle. It was a long wait time. (I got the other harnesses from Lectric Limited.)
 
I used AAW, was very easy to install with the directions supplied. Also has a connector for additional circuits. Also supply extra length on all wires for custom install. I needed another 2 wire female and male connector for my council dome light which they had no problem suppling, more connectors at no charge.
 
Here is a couple pics of Pico sockets compared to AAW sockets. The first is a tail light socket. Observe the difference in the prongs that secure the socket. There are differences inside the socket body as well.
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Next is are instrument panel sockets. Again look at the differences in the prongs. Also big difference within the socket body. Pico on top.

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Finally a couple pics of a Pico instrument socket compared to an AAW instrument socket attempting to hold the same LED bulb.

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