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Don_Lightfoot

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Here is the sequence of components I am dealing with. Also noted are the main jacks relative to each component.

HD Satellite Receiver
- Composite Video output.
- S-Video output.
- Component Video output.

DVD Recorder/Player
- Composite Video input.
- Composite Video output.
- S-Video output.
- Component Video output

HD TV
- Composite Video input
- S-Video input
- Component Video input.

Since my DVD Recorder is a few years old I thought it might be outdated, but after looking at specifications and features of all new DVD & VCR devices none of them are showing S-Video input or Component Video input.

Here are my questions:

1) - Since I have no alternative but to run Composite Video cables from the Receiver to the DVD, how much of the HD TV signal quality will I lose?

2) - Due to the above need for Composite Video cables for one connection, is there any advantage whatsoever to then run the better quality and much more expensive S-Video or Component Video cables from the DVD to the TV?

Thanks in advance.
 
Discussion starter · #3 ·
Thanks for the response Allan. Not the result I was looking for, but not unexpected. Sounds like you cannot run another device in sequence between the receiver and TV if you want to retain the HD signal quality at the TV. That sucks :sad:

Here are the TV particulars you requested:
- Panasonic HD TV LCD.
- Component Video Input (Y - PB - PA).
- Audio Input (White - Red).
- Composite Video Input #1 (Yellow - White - Red).
- Composite Video Input #2 (Yellow - White - Red).
- S-Video Input #1.
- S-Video Input #2.
- Audio Output (White - Red).

It's obvious you can connect the DVD device directly to the TV using one of the three types of cables and run it separately, but in order to record from the Satellite signal it will be necessary to shuffle the cables (EG - disconnect the Component cable from receiver to TV and connect the Composite cables from the receiver to the DVD). What a pain :mad:
 
#5 ·
Don the switch is the way to go in this situation. I just bought a Samsung HDTV and had Direct TV installed. I have two HDMI ports on my tv along with composite, s-video and component. I thought I'd be able to use one for Satellite and one for HTiB but I can only use one for the HTiB. Unfortunately I can't use the other with the satellite reciever because when I do the TV blinks so I have to "downgrade" to component. Picture is great but I wonder if it would be better if I could use HDMI. One of these days maybe all the technology will work together.
 
#6 ·
Wow, your TV has very few inputs.

Some points of interest here:
Based on the inputs listed for your recorder, it will not record High Definition TV, so it doesn't matter what cable you use to hook it up. go ahead and send it the composite video from the Satelite Receiver. This way you can record shows and not have your TV on.

The component video will connect the Satelite Receiver's output to the TV the watching of normal and HDTV.

Connect the S-video output of your DVD player to the S-video input of your TV. Because your DVD player can only record to an s-video standard, then there is no reason to need greater capability here. Now one can argu that you will have better video quality, when watching store bought DVDs, if you use the Component output from your DVD player to your TV. This is true. To do this though, you will need to go the "swticher box" route. But I say use the S-video for a while. See how you like it. It's like comparing a 71 chevelle to a 72 chevelle... not much difference if you own a 69. ;)

If you buy a switcher, get one locally if you can. That way you do can a quick comparison between Component and S-video. See if it's worth the $$$ and EFFORT involved with using the switcher box.

-FYI, most Audio (/video) receivers are able to switch multiple video sources. So, if you had a newer audio system, that would solve all of your worries. Where is your Dolby 5.1 surround comming from now?? If you don't have surround sounds, stick with S-video and don't think twice about component. ;)

Lightsausage... you know I have a picture in my photo album of you, chuck Framer, Gene Chaas, CFR, and Lev from chevelle-abration. Funny stuff there! :D
 
Discussion starter · #7 ·
Gene and Pete - thanks for the Switch information which I will consider.

Mike - Since I am by no means an electronic expert, let me confirm what you are proposing:

First routing
- Composite cable from Receiver to DVD.
- S-Video from DVD to TV.

Second routing
- Component cable direct from Receiver to TV.

That certainly makes sense, but it does raise another question. This is relative to just using the TV and not running a disc from the DVD. Since there are two signals starting at the Receiver and ending at the TV (one signal routing through the DVD and the other direct), will the TV recognize just one signal? (EG - will the component signal override the S-video signal?) Do you understand what I am saying?

By the way, that CB picture you have could be a good one depending on what time of the night or early morning it was taken :D :D
 
#10 ·
Do you have any DVI or HDMI inputs?

I'm still planning my inputs.... I may end up with a switch box when I get the PS3 and run my XBox 360 and PS3 on the same input....

You can get adapters to go from DVI to HDMI so even if you have a component with one and the TV has the other you can use them....
 
#12 ·
Don,

At your TV, you can control which Input you are viewing, right? Use your "Menu" button and select the input you want.

I am curious if you have a true HD tv also. It surely doesn't have much for inputs - and it had better NOT "auto recognize" which input it wants to display versus you selecting the input.

PM me, or send picture if you need to. WE'll get it straightend out. Between football games that is. ;)

Pic was just before noon. Lightsausage had just been invented the night before... I think. :beers:

good luck. :)
 
#13 ·
Nite Owl, my Sony HD tv has DVI inputs, my new HD receiver has HDMI. Great, because my DVD has taken my tv's componant inputs. I buy the HDMI to DVI adapter and hook. Got tv, but HD does not look right. I found out that because HDMI uses HDCP [copy protection] and my tv does not have it, the the signal is kicked back down to 480 i. So, everyone be aware, if you have to use adapters and one of the units uses HDCP, you will not get HD. John
 
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bandit67 said:
Nite Owl, my Sony HD tv has DVI inputs, my new HD receiver has HDMI. Great, because my DVD has taken my tv's componant inputs. I buy the HDMI to DVI adapter and hook. Got tv, but HD does not look right. I found out that because HDMI uses HDCP [copy protection] and my tv does not have it, the the signal is kicked back down to 480 i. So, everyone be aware, if you have to use adapters and one of the units uses HDCP, you will not get HD. John
Click to expand...
Good to know.... I have 1 adapter, it's from my Cable box to the HDMI input, cable box is DVI out....
 
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