[FO_FDYFO]

i just wanted to through this out there for discussion. here are pics of some of what i have.
(not for sale)

THE FIRST ONE IS GREEN AND MOLDED LIKE THE USUAL FLOOR MATS, but in
the second pic you see a black mat next to it, it is the cheeper
factory mat that would have come in a green brier.

i am considering remanufacturing the nice molded ones, but it will be a bit costly for a simple floormat to do by hand and low volume.

 

[Scotch]

I'd encourage you to move forward with it. I know I'd pay for a new one for my '67...it's SUCH a big part of what makes wagons special (the wagon area behind the seat) and people naturally look there. My original one is tired, but mostly complete and is 'passable' to see, but I'd surely replace it with a new one if it were available (in brown, please...LOL!)

~Scotch~

 

[FO_FDYFO]

post or send me some pics. is a 67 the same as 68-72?
is it like the green one or the black one in the pic above.

 

[Scotch]

I'll have to look. It's been awhile since I really looked at it, I've got a bunch of parts back there now since the paint job (bumpers etc.) that I have to pull out anyway.

Now I've got more motivation...LOL!

~Scotch~

 

[BillsCamino]

My '66 was like the green one.

 

[FO_FDYFO]

how much would you (anyone) be willing to pay for a molded one like the green one? i have sent my original to a manufacturer to get quotes on making the injection molds. i dont think color is an issue once the mold is made. i just need to figure how many i would have to sell to recoupe the set up costs. there probably is not much of a market for these. and not a lot of people are going to speed what i am thinking it will cost to make them for a simple floor mat? i need to get a feel. please speek up!

 

[BillsCamino]

Pete,
I'd be interested in a price quote...my present solution is a piece of cut and bound carpeting.
And we're assuming the "master" mat fits both early AND later model wagons??

 

[FO_FDYFO]

that doesnt answer how much you would pay for one.
can somebody get rough dimensions of pre 68 to see if they are the same?

 

[Mr69]

Pete, I have the original mat in my 69 and it is in mint condition.
It is black and like the one on the left in your picture.
My wagon was originally a Concours.
I would think that all of the 68-72 use this same mat.

The green one you have pictured looks like it's for an earlier year or possibly for a BOP wagon.

 

[FO_FDYFO]

the green one could have very well came from a bop. if that is the case should i even go forward with the bop, there is a lot less people wanting those and it would never return the set up costs. or do you think people would want them for upgrading chevelle wagons? i also 2 days ago have the correct material being sent to me to make the one on the left. that one will cost less by far. i know 68-72 is the same size. remember i am the one who had the metal tool wells reproduced. the set up costs were rediculesly high to own the tooling rights too. i also have nos 70 quarters but the tooling is too high for my blood. each quarter would have to sell for $2000. who would do that? well the molded mat may be the same thing.

 

[Scotch]

Okay well...$2,000 is more than I'm willing to spend for a mat...LOL!

However, I'm not looking for absolute factory-matching perfection either. I mean, if someone made these like floormats (carpeting with finished edges) in the right shape, I'd buy that. It doesn't even have to be a rubber mat...it just has to fit right, look nice, and cost less than 100 bucks.

I bet we could talk Auto Custom Carpets or someone who does carpeted floor mats into doing a run to our size specs. Would a carpeted piece cut to fit be more or less desirable to you guys? Would the fact it could be done in carpeting that was real similar to factory carpeting make it more cool?

Personally...I might like it more than the rubber mat, and I bet it'd be cheaper to get made based on what "Fiddy" is saying.

Opinions?


~Scotch~

 

[FO_FDYFO]

the only issue i have with carpet, and i could argue with my self on this, is that if it gets wet it will hold moisture real bad. but my arguement to my self is, why should it get wet? forget to close the back? i've done it. or how about the thought that rubber could hold moisture in even worse? ok ok i guess moisture is bad either way. carpet does help keep crap from sliding around... oh i a so confused.

 

[Mr69]

Pete, I thought of the same thing.
If the side windows leak a little, as mine do, water will run into the well.
My current leaks are so minor and we get so little rain here, that it's not a problem.
But if water was to get in there, carpet would surely hold the water for the longest time.

I don't like the idea of putting carpet in there myself, unless you were to put it on top of the rubber mat ! And check it periodically to make sure it is staying dry.

You know what would be really cool is a custom made series of bins to hold stuff. Maybe a plastic injected type thing. Maybe about 8-10 in tall. With compartments for a small tool box, 6 quarts of oil, a couple gallon of antifreeze, jumper cables, detailing supplies, etc etc.
Make it to fit the well perfectly so that it would not slide around.
Keep it as lightweight as possible. Kinda like milk crates.

 

[FO_FDYFO]

6 quarts of oil! you burnin oil my god. i need to cary at least 8 quarts extra! ha ha'
thats not a bad idea. i still would put a mat undr that though. ohh unless it were suspended slightly either by supporting it by the top, sides or just small feet that rested on the floor. that way the actual bottom would be clear from anything and if it did get wet, not only would it be easy to see but it would not be trapped. which made me think about having some sort of grill to allow damp stagnet, fumey air to get out of that compartment as well as the spare tire compartment.

 

[Mr69]

6 quarts of oil! you burnin oil my god. i need to cary at least 8 quarts extra! ha ha'
thats not a bad idea. i still would put a mat undr that though. ohh unless it were suspended slightly either by supporting it by the top, sides or just small feet that rested on the floor. that way the actual bottom would be clear from anything and if it did get wet, not only would it be easy to see but it would not be trapped. which made me think about having some sort of grill to allow damp stagnet, fumey air to get out of that compartment as well as the spare tire compartment.

I do add a quart about every 1000 miles, mainly due to leakage.
I forgot to put sealer on the crank when I slid the damper on and I get seepage from between the crank and the damper.
But the reason I carry 6 quarts of oil and a new filter is so that I have what I need for an oil change on a road trip.

I failed to mention keeping a gas can in there too. I have one, but it's empty.

I also keep extra wiper blades, a length of 3/8 fuel line, clamps and a selection of nuts/bolts.

When I go on a long trip, I take a floor jack, jack stands, and a larger tool box. Along with a rebuilt starter, alternator, fuel pump, water pump, gasket sealer, all belts, trans fluid, upper and lower radiator hoses, an HEI module, and a set of plugs.
It's far cheaper to do an roadside repair yourself, than to have to be towed to the nearest town.

 

[FO_FDYFO]

i carry an extra front brake hose and a u-joint! i learnd the hard way on both of those items on a road trip!

 

[Mr69]

i carry an extra front brake hose and a u-joint! i learnd the hard way on both of those items on a road trip!

Yeah, I do that too.
On my last trip I had 2 brand new u-joints in my console.
Carry a small grease gun too.

oh yeah and don't forget the 2-16" x 16" 3/4" plywood to put under the jackstands for stability.