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I can’t stand the noise of rocks/pebbles against my metal inner front fenders while running more of a stickier and wider tire. Even makes noise in the rear and the inners are coated with factory undercoating.

My buddy has a new vette and experiences the same problem.

Is there anything that could be done to reduce sound? I was thinking undercoating the front inners? Or is this how it goes in the pro-touring world?
 

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Some people will take the inner front fenders to get them undercoated with line-x or some other type of truck bed material and they tell me it works.
 

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Durable, rubberized undercoating or, perhaps in conjunction, replace the metal front inners with plastic.

I have the plastic front inner fender liners and, although I haven't driven it much, I can't recall having a noise issue.
 

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I plan on undercoating the underside of mine when I get the chance. I am not running a soft sticky tire like you are though so it doesnt make much noise in mine. I also am not running carpet or dynomat or anything yet either so thats probably why I cant hear it as well.

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Durable, rubberized undercoating or, perhaps in conjunction, replace the metal front inners with plastic.

I have the plastic front inner fender liners and, although I haven't driven it much, I can't recall having a noise issue.
The metal ones are 1 yr old that replaced cracked plastic ones.
 

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Some people will take the inner front fenders to get them undercoated with line-x or some other type of truck bed material and they tell me it works.

That was my thought. I will have them out this winter, so I may get something that is available in a rattle can and spray tire side only.
 

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The metal ones are 1 yr old that replaced cracked plastic ones.
I replaced my oem metal inners with plastics from OPGI back in '05. Of course, the weather between IL and Southern Nevada are quite different and might be a reason. They are holding up rather well, I just wish they fit as they're supposed to. (they aren't perfect.)
 

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Guys....stop "pro touring" on gravel. What cha doin? Delivering "shine" in Hazard County?
 

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If you plan to have them undercoated during the winter months then think of this.
Pull the inners out have them blasted and powder coated or painted the color you want if they are scratched or whatever. Then take them to a place that does the good bedliner, the crap in a can is garbage and you will not be happy when it comes off. This way the base it is applied to will be fresh and adhesion will not be an issue.
 

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Guys....stop "pro touring" on gravel. What cha doin? Delivering "shine" in Hazard County?
LOL thats what I was thinking!! PT cars are meant to stay on clean smooth asphalt, preferably with numbered and/or named turns:hurray:

Maybe they are doing Grp N rally, in that case Id suggest kevlar inner fender wells, dont dent and can take a nasty beating without breaking lol
 

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So the challenge in reducing noise is twofold: first you have the transmission of the noise energy and second you have the energy of the impacting particulates.

For transmission of noise the less dense plastic inner fenders are likely superior. Rubber mounting of the inner fenders, while impractical and with structural drawbacks, would isolate and reduce sound energy transmission from the inner fenders to the firewall (and thus passenger compartment). Next down the line on transmission is the natural frequency of the parts. Thin sheet metal will tend to vibrate at a higher frequency on it's own. But make it thicker and the frequency drops.

For energy of the impacting particulates you can affect the amplitude and duration of the energy transferral but not the amount of energy transferred. This leads to the problem with Line-X type coatings: they are relatively hard. So they, like the raw metal, transfer all of the energy in a short high amplitude pulse. Think PING! Whereas a rubberized coating would absorb the impact leading to a longer and lower amplitude pulse. Think THUNK! For many humans the thunk is less obtrusive/annoying than the ping.

Thinking through this I would use a rubberized coating on the wheel side of the inner fender. I would also try and get a bit creative and use the rubberized coating on the contact points to the body.

I don't find this contrary to PT at all, if it wasn't rocks it would be rain. The idea of PT is modern convienience and features in yesterday's styling. Making your ride quiet or "tuning" the acoustics for just the right driving experience is *very* modern.
 

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I don't find this contrary to PT at all, if it wasn't rocks it would be rain. The idea of PT is modern convienience and features in yesterday's styling. Making your ride quiet or "tuning" the acoustics for just the right driving experience is *very* modern.
I look at PT as a musclecar infused with the most modern drivetrain components in order to go fast in all directions. Obviously opinions differ, but I like to think of it as a modern race car hidden under 40 yr old sheetmetal.

Regardless I was joking around definitely not ragging on anyone in the slightest.
 

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I look at PT as a musclecar infused with the most modern drivetrain components in order to go fast in all directions. Obviously opinions differ, but I like to think of it as a modern race car hidden under 40 yr old sheetmetal.

Regardless I was joking around definitely not ragging on anyone in the slightest.
You are right too and that is part of the fun of PT, the definition is a bit flexible. My personal interpretation is a bit less NASCAR-ish and a bit more BMW-ish.
 
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