Hi all. I guess someone here can explain to me exactly how unemployment benefits work. My situation is that I have some nice capacity in my shop and I know quite a few people unemployed receiving benefts. I could use the help, the pay is right and the working conditions are great. The first thing they ask about is can I pay in cash. I can't and that is the end of it. They just decide to not work at all. As I understand it if you are able get part time work you just do not call in for unemployment benefits during the time you are working. Am I missing something here or is just the reality of the system our government has put into place meaning it is better to sit at home and do nothing rather than trying to earn some type of a paycheck?
people on unemployment who do not want to work part time??
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Re: people on unemploymeny who do not want to work part time??
From the one time I attempted to get unemployment 15 years ago or so, they would deduct whatever you made at your PT job from your benefits. Made me say forget it because I was making only half my bills from the PT job and needed the extra to make the rest, but it would have ended up with me making the same half of the bill money anyways plus doing a ton of paperwork. Stupid.
So I just cut down to eating every other day instead of every day, and eventually things got better.
K
From the one time I attempted to get unemployment 15 years ago or so, they would deduct whatever you made at your PT job from your benefits. Made me say forget it because I was making only half my bills from the PT job and needed the extra to make the rest, but it would have ended up with me making the same half of the bill money anyways plus doing a ton of paperwork. Stupid.
So I just cut down to eating every other day instead of every day, and eventually things got better.
K
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Re: people on unemploymeny who do not want to work part time??
I think the way it is here in Pa.,any part time wages are deducted from your benefits. I don't know if people think it's not worth the trouble to go to work and report the wages,or they want to work the system since they know the job is only temporary.
I think the way it is here in Pa.,any part time wages are deducted from your benefits. I don't know if people think it's not worth the trouble to go to work and report the wages,or they want to work the system since they know the job is only temporary.
Well, working the system is to each his own but without this getting thrown in CE at one point the milking of the cow or so to speak will run out and then where does that leave a person who had opportunities to work while they were on unemployment benefits? It would just seem to me that getting the opportunity work some hours would keep the skills sharpened and let a person know that maybe things are trying to get better. I guess my perspective is different. Can't catch a fush unless you have a line in the water. Oh well, back to reality........
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it's not necessarily about being lazy or playing the system- it might just be about taking the sure thing and not falling behind on the bills any more than they have to.
in MN, any money you make beyond a certain dollar amount per week is deducted from your weekly benefit. and if you make over a certain amount- which is less than your weekly unemployment benefit- then they don't pay you at all.
generally, it makes more financial sense to either work for cash under the table or find a good paying full time job and just get off the unemployment altogether.
i don't know what the job market in your area is like, but around here there aren't too many jobs that start you out making more money than unemployment.
i got laid off in march, and looked for decent paying jobs the whole time i was off. all i found in my area were entry level manufacturing or cashier/stockboy/peon jobs designed for high schoolers that only offered 30 or less hours a week. so i held out, and found a decent job about a month ago that guarantees me 50 hour work weeks for at least the next 6 months- but i'm driving 60 miles each way for it. it was literally the only decent paying place that was hiring within 100 miles of me.
in MN, any money you make beyond a certain dollar amount per week is deducted from your weekly benefit. and if you make over a certain amount- which is less than your weekly unemployment benefit- then they don't pay you at all.
generally, it makes more financial sense to either work for cash under the table or find a good paying full time job and just get off the unemployment altogether.
i don't know what the job market in your area is like, but around here there aren't too many jobs that start you out making more money than unemployment.
i got laid off in march, and looked for decent paying jobs the whole time i was off. all i found in my area were entry level manufacturing or cashier/stockboy/peon jobs designed for high schoolers that only offered 30 or less hours a week. so i held out, and found a decent job about a month ago that guarantees me 50 hour work weeks for at least the next 6 months- but i'm driving 60 miles each way for it. it was literally the only decent paying place that was hiring within 100 miles of me.
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I'm not on unemployment, but I want to be, and I don't want to work ANYTIME!
I just want to play with my cars and have plenty of money to spend.
Oh well, I guess I can do that when I win the lottery.
But on second thought, if I win the lottery, I won't be playing with cars---------------I'll be playing with planes!
I just want to play with my cars and have plenty of money to spend.
Oh well, I guess I can do that when I win the lottery.
But on second thought, if I win the lottery, I won't be playing with cars---------------I'll be playing with planes!
Well,if they get a job working for you they get the payments reduced, so they still make the same amount, BUT, they have less time to look for a full time job.
my father and grandfather instilled something in me that I hope to pass on to my child... "You take the damn job, and look for something better along the way, never quit one job to get another untill you got the other."
Any job "peon" or not is a job you do not have. Take it, take your lumps, get off the teet and do your part, suck up in one place and know your limits.
Any job "peon" or not is a job you do not have. Take it, take your lumps, get off the teet and do your part, suck up in one place and know your limits.
Its much the same here in ireland, a lot of people would rather get unemployment benifit than work:boring:, a lot of folks collect their cheque and do some work but dont declare it :sad:, its like everywhere people want to screw the system , if you get caught your employment is stopped .
If it's a part time job, then I think that they probably have time on their hands to still look for work. I'm sure that there are many excpetions but I think we've gotten to used to the idea that we are owed something from the government and that we are entitled to these benefit. I know there are a lot of employers that are frustrated that they can't hire because the candidates only want full time or think the jobs are beneath them. Take the part time job, get off the governement teat and get a better job when it comes along. IMO Trust me I sympathize with people in this economy but turning your nose up at a job when you are unemployed makes me question whether you really want to work. Just because it makes more financial sense to be on unemployment doesn't mean it's the right thing to do. The intention is to provide financial assistance when you can't find a job, not until you find a job that meets your high standards. The laws should be changed to that people who are willing to take part time work are not punished for it.
LKSV8 - I like your Astra. It reminds me of a car we had here many years ago.
LKSV8 - I like your Astra. It reminds me of a car we had here many years ago.
Sure, I guess it would be great, but guess who gets to pay the system for everyone else to screw!!!
If you have the ability to work, and a job offer, then take the job... That way maybe the benefits can be used for someone else that really needs the money, without the rest of us getting hosed with higher taxes...
And I guess this is the underlining slap in my face. I am paying them to refuse work. Oh I forgot, hunting season just started here. Why work when someone can have their "dream season".... For those of you who are not abusing the system, keep plugging and something good will happen. For those who are abusing it, karma sucks. Pretty bad when a person walks away from earning 1k each week during the month of october. I will stop ranting now.
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Just in case anyone misunderstood my earlier comment above, it was an attempt at some humor.
I started throwing papers when I was in the 8th grade (just like the mail, the paper has to be delivered every day, rain, shine, snow), I'm 66 now and still working a FULL TIME day job and working at my part time job evenings and weekends (DZ Automotive), paying taxes, mortgage, car payment, gas, groceries and bills. Every Sat I work on the plane, work on our cars in between and about once a week I get to go to bed.
Ya, it sure would be nice to just sit back and collect unemployment!!!
Oh ya, and in July of each year I start stashing money away for the annual pilgramage to Chevellabration in June!
There ain't no free lunch!
I started throwing papers when I was in the 8th grade (just like the mail, the paper has to be delivered every day, rain, shine, snow), I'm 66 now and still working a FULL TIME day job and working at my part time job evenings and weekends (DZ Automotive), paying taxes, mortgage, car payment, gas, groceries and bills. Every Sat I work on the plane, work on our cars in between and about once a week I get to go to bed.
Ya, it sure would be nice to just sit back and collect unemployment!!!
Oh ya, and in July of each year I start stashing money away for the annual pilgramage to Chevellabration in June!
There ain't no free lunch!
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Many a Part Time Job has led to a Full Time Position... I don't understand the mentality of the unemployed either
If SLOPAR is willing to pay $1000 per week for part time work, that is pretty attractive. Here in AZ the max weekly unemployment benefit is $240, so working for $1000 per week part time would be a no-brainer. I would have jumped at that when I was on the dole. Why people would turn that down is a mystery to me.
Don't even get me started on the abuse of unemployment benefits. I can't tell you the number of people I know who are milking the system in one way or another. It makes me ill. Of course there are many decent people out there who using these benefits for legitimate and necessary reasons, however far too many people are just lining up at the trough for a free ride. And then they complain about how the country is so screwed up. :sad:
That's more than I make on my full time job..... you pay that year round? I could use a boost in income....
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Tom, let me give you a pat on the back!Just in case anyone misunderstood my earlier comment above, it was an attempt at some humor.
I started throwing papers when I was in the 8th grade (just like the mail, the paper has to be delivered every day, rain, shine, snow), I'm 66 now and still working a FULL TIME day job and working at my part time job evenings and weekends (DZ Automotive), paying taxes, mortgage, car payment, gas, groceries and bills. Every Sat I work on the plane, work on our cars in between and about once a week I get to go to bed.
Ya, it sure would be nice to just sit back and collect unemployment!!!
Oh ya, and in July of each year I start stashing money away for the annual pilgramage to Chevellabration in June!
There ain't no free lunch!
First, let me say I do not know ANYTHING about unemployment benefits.
Second, let me say never leave a job until you have a better job lined up and some sort of contract signed.
Third, let me get this straight. In order to receive unemployment, you CAN NOT have any kind of job?
Situtation:
Lets say a man was making $3000 a month and had benefits with that job. All of the sudden he loses that $3000 and his benefits for his family, lets say of 4. When this happens his current bills are lets say the following: house payment, car payment, insurance payments, food bills, and etc. Basically just the staples of living. Not really including the extras. Just providing for the family. The man files for unemployment and gets some sort of assistance. While looking for a job, he finds some part time employment. Like stocking selves for a supermarket, cutting grass for a lawn service. Just to have some cash coming in. The guy is working and not just sitting. However, would he now lose the unemployment? Would unemployment even be a option. How does that work? How is assistance gauged? Surely, it is not on what you did make.
My concern for someone in this situtation is: If a man is willing to take on these jobs and not just sit around, would he qualify for some kind of help, so he can make these payments he has, until he either downsize his payments or replaces the paycheck.
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