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The car that is supposed to be rosewood in that link is NOT rosewood. I had a 1971 Monte SS454 that was code 78 Rosewood when it was 2 years old with original paint and the link car is no where near correct. The link car is very red, Rosewood was a deep brown with kind of a hint of a purple to it. (The color looked WAY better than I make it sound, It was not RED at all.) Try this link, the car looks exactly like my old one (color-wise) The link is for a dealers car, I have NO connection or interest in the car, the link is to show the correct color ONLY!!!! http://www.2040cars.com/Chevrolet/Monte-Carlo/1971-low-mileage-monte-carlo-421785/
 

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The car that is supposed to be rosewood in that link is NOT rosewood. I had a 1971 Monte SS454 that was code 78 Rosewood when it was 2 years old with original paint and the link car is no where near correct. The link car is very red, Rosewood was a deep brown with kind of a hint of a purple to it. (The color looked WAY better than I make it sound, It was not RED at all.) Try this link, the car looks exactly like my old one (color-wise) The link is for a dealers car, I have NO connection or interest in the car, the link is to show the correct color ONLY!!!! http://www.2040cars.com/Chevrolet/Monte-Carlo/1971-low-mileage-monte-carlo-421785/
BINGO! My Chevelle has been repainted in the early 80's but behind the door panels and rear seat panels it is still the factory Rosewood That is exactly the color that is behind them.

Problem is when you go and have color mixed, it is that Burgundy reddish color that is here on this site and a few others. That Monte hits the nail on the head.
 

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DuPont's Chroma Base line does not have the formula for Rosewood so the next line is Nason by DuPont and it comes out that Burgundy Reddish color and I do not want that as it is not right.

The sales rep for PPG says they can get it right but I haven't taken the time to go. I don't mind taking the Monte or the Camaro pic in for comparison but sure would like to get my hands on a Chevelle picture that shows the correct color.
 

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If the color you want is on your doors and shell behind the interior panels why don't you drive the car, or bring a door, to the paint co and have them scan it? Gotta be better than a picture on the internet that looks different to everyone based on their screen and a printout could look different too based on the printer. Bring in the real deal, I bet they can match it.
 

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I have to say that I have seen numerous Rosewood 71s that were closer to Burgundy. There was a 1971 Nova 2 blocks from my house from 1971 until about 1983, I had also seen a Caprice sedan, and even a 1971 Lemans hardtop coupe with white interior. Those cars were all more burgundy. Think of dogwood bark, sort of a burgundy.


Classic Copper and Rosewood were of the same sort of intensity & luminocity but in different tones. Classic Copper was almost a rootbeer color.

I would also agree with what Dean said about it being hard to judge colors from a computer screen or photograph. Keep an open mind. The idea of finding a hidden panel wearing original paint sounds like the best plan.
 

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My ElCamino is already in primer but behind the door panels and in the jams is still the factory color which is Rosewood. PNT 78 78 on my trim tag and going by how most of the pictures look (on my computer) that Camaro looks the closest to me.Its definately brown but with a tiny amount of redness showing when you look at it in the sun.
 

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You guys need to get better at stealing pics.

Off Dales site.




I had a 71 Caprice that was 78 78 and the Monte is on the money
Some additional info on paint code 78 from another GM make.

http://automotivemileposts.com/cadillac/paint1975cadi.html

Looks like that purplish brown color y'all are yearning for.
Andy,your Monte picture is closer looking to it to my eye,the Chevelle has too much red in it.
Joey,that Caddy code 78 has an asterisk that says it a new paint for 1975 and definately not purplish,more like a slight reddish/burgandy but not enough to make it not look brown.
 

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Good catch on the * John but I think that just means it's new to the cadillac line, not a new color. it's still code 78 rosewood and there was no rosewood offered on the 74 caddy.

I've got no dog in this fight so I'll step back now but I'll be following along to see if the rosewood color match issues gets resolved. good luck rosewood guys!
 

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DuPont's Chroma Base line does not have the formula for Rosewood so the next line is Nason by DuPont and it comes out that Burgundy Reddish color and I do not want that as it is not right.

The sales rep for PPG says they can get it right but I haven't taken the time to go. I don't mind taking the Monte or the Camaro pic in for comparison but sure would like to get my hands on a Chevelle picture that shows the correct color.
If you really want the correct color you mmay have to unbolt a door and bring it with you.OR slice a 4X4 piece of the inner door panel and bring it with you.Weld it back when you get the right paint.
I'll be watching and rooting for you,if an experienced paint guy can't get the right paint I don't have a snowballs chance inhell of getting the right paint either.
 

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The problem with using the color on the back side of the door is that it is not a direct spray of the color, more like an thin spray (color may not be as brilliant) if that makes sense. They are how ever doing a 8oz mix to do a color test so we shall see.

As far as the SS454 Monte and the Camaro goes, it is as close as I can find just to show them an example. I know the computer screens will vary in shades of color but it does show that the 71 posted on this site and many others to be wrong.
 

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hope the sample comes out the way you want it. You could always buff a small area of the behind-the-door color to get the shine. I don't know how a flat version of color will register with the color machines vs a lustrous version of the same color.
 

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I think we have a winner with the color. The car will not be ready for paint for another few weeks but I will post pictures once it is sprayed. Sure would like to see the color example pictures updated on these sites to end the confusion. Rosewood 78 is not Burgundy Red that is shown for 1971. Now according to an original GM paint chip book, 1970 paint code 78 is so there is a big change from 70 to 71 in the color.
 
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