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Yep, great article! :thumbsup:
I sent Rick an e-mail this afternoon.
I sent Rick an e-mail this afternoon.
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Terrific article. I sent Rick an email first of the week.
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Rick, great looking restoration you did on that LS6, :thumbsup: can you give me the info on the 48 green you used, I want to use it on my 48 car. Thanks
And you will not find two nicer people than Rick and Annie. I am honored to have them as my friends! :beers:
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Oh you say that about everyone...........just kidding. Back attcha Bruce. Takes one to know one!
Thanks for all the comments. Finally found an issue late last night and drove 43 miles to get it! Steve Temple did a great job on the article and layout. I look forward to working with him again.
Nice article and an amazing restoration of one unique LS6 :thumbsup:
I can't wait to read about the next one in a magazine. Because there will be many more to come!:hurray:
Give Annie a hug from all of us...Hollywood too!
There is a saying that says, "Find a job that you love, and you will never work". This truly applies to Rick and Annie. Long hours, and a passion for correctnes and perfection. Setting standards in the restoration hobby very few can achieve. I am a true believer that Chevelles can be work of art, deseving to be admired just like a Picasso, and pampered in every detailed, (aka> "trailer queens"). There are very few in the restoration business who can achive Picasso level, and Rick is one of the few I know.
First I want to say that the actual car looks fantastic and Rick Nelson should be applauded for his work. I have spoken to him since hearing about the article, and I know he wishes his painter would have gotten a mention. I can certainly appreciate how he feels I never appreciated Ricks' work until I looked at his website and looked at the pics of the car as a rolling body on chassis. The attention to detail is amazing.
Second it is nice to see the car get a magazine cover and a nice feature article. I don't agree with the definitive "first" moniker being used, but it was a nice overall article. I am not sure where the information breakdown occurred, whether from trying to condense information into an article, a misunderstanding of the facts, or whatever the case, but I do want to set the factual record of the car straight.
I am the person mentioned in the article as having owned the car twice...and "no" I'm not trying to buy it back...besides I'd use a proxy buyer for that anyway...incognito...haha. I spoke to Rick and the current owner feels it should be about the car and not the owners...I agree with him to some degree. I've received phone calls and emails from other collectors, some of them who were involved with the car, and who know the cars' story asking why the article says certain things...either expressly or by being implied. I'm not sure, but in the interest of not muddying the waters and keeping factual information straight I feel compelled to post.
I first owned the car in 1994 having bought it from a well known collector through Hemmings Motor News. I then researched it through Chevelle sources, GM, and the old National Chevelle Owners Association. I did some work to the car to make it more presentable, but didn't care about a frame offed car, as I only took it to local shows and cruises. I'm the one who located the intact buildsheet under the drivers side carpet with "It'll need wings too!" written on it. I actually drove the car almost daily for about a year and then sold it in the winter of 1996 to go back to college and work on a graduate degree.
I bought the car back from the guy I sold it to in the fall of 2001 and started using the internet to research the car. I was able to locate Ray Pasternak (the GM Exec) after numerous calls and emails using the information I had. I also located the original owner..Felix Bercedoni using the internet. I was posting all of this stuff on here and the records and threads can be viewed I'm sure. This was in 2001 and 2002.
Myself and others, but not the current owner, were working on dating the option being phased in as early as 1994, but as a result of the internet, and the sharing of information, the research started to come together into a more definitive idea in 2002-2004...well BEFORE the current owner owned the car or had ANYTHING to do with it or any of the discussions..
I sold the car, not after a lot of negoiation, maybe a few phone calls and a few weeks. The current owner received all of the information I had about the car which is what has always been known. The car was sold to him in the same shape as I had sold it in 1996, with me only changing the oil and putting tires on it from 2001 til I sold it. He took the car to Chevy Vette Fest in 2007 or 2008 just like it was when I owned it and the car presented itself well.
I would have enjoyed being a part of the article and being able to tell the complete story of the car, as it is unique and there is much more that would be entertaining to know, but it didn't work that way. I learned of it through a phone call from a former owner.
There were a lot of people who helped me document the car.. Harry Snow (the collector I bought it from in 1994), Brian Edwards, Jeff Dotterer, Chris White, Rick Nelson, Rick Peters, Kevin Bierman (sp?), others on Team Chevelle and the other websites, etc...but NOT the current owner. The things written about in the article were common knowledge on here and other sites, and I posted about them BEFORE the current owner was even in the picture.
We are all just caretakers of these cars and keeping their factual history intact should be paramount to us...The current owner should be applauded for spending the money to properly restore the car and for others to enjoy. I hope the people who were instrumental in researching the early LS6, the L78/LS6 "timeline", "pilot" cars, etc.. get "props" as well as the owner for owning a cool car.
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Greg Carlson
I never appreciated Ricks' work until I looked at his website and looked at the pics of the car as a rolling body on chassis. The attention to detail is amazing.Second it is nice to see the car get a magazine cover and a nice feature article. I don't agree with the definitive "first" moniker being used, but it was a nice overall article. I am not sure where the information breakdown occurred, whether from trying to condense information into an article, a misunderstanding of the facts, or whatever the case, but I do want to set the factual record of the car straight.
I am the person mentioned in the article as having owned the car twice...and "no" I'm not trying to buy it back...besides I'd use a proxy buyer for that anyway...incognito...haha. I spoke to Rick and the current owner feels it should be about the car and not the owners...I agree with him to some degree. I've received phone calls and emails from other collectors, some of them who were involved with the car, and who know the cars' story asking why the article says certain things...either expressly or by being implied. I'm not sure, but in the interest of not muddying the waters and keeping factual information straight I feel compelled to post.
I first owned the car in 1994 having bought it from a well known collector through Hemmings Motor News. I then researched it through Chevelle sources, GM, and the old National Chevelle Owners Association. I did some work to the car to make it more presentable, but didn't care about a frame offed car, as I only took it to local shows and cruises. I'm the one who located the intact buildsheet under the drivers side carpet with "It'll need wings too!" written on it. I actually drove the car almost daily for about a year and then sold it in the winter of 1996 to go back to college and work on a graduate degree.
I bought the car back from the guy I sold it to in the fall of 2001 and started using the internet to research the car. I was able to locate Ray Pasternak (the GM Exec) after numerous calls and emails using the information I had. I also located the original owner..Felix Bercedoni using the internet. I was posting all of this stuff on here and the records and threads can be viewed I'm sure. This was in 2001 and 2002.
Myself and others, but not the current owner, were working on dating the option being phased in as early as 1994, but as a result of the internet, and the sharing of information, the research started to come together into a more definitive idea in 2002-2004...well BEFORE the current owner owned the car or had ANYTHING to do with it or any of the discussions..
I sold the car, not after a lot of negoiation, maybe a few phone calls and a few weeks. The current owner received all of the information I had about the car which is what has always been known. The car was sold to him in the same shape as I had sold it in 1996, with me only changing the oil and putting tires on it from 2001 til I sold it. He took the car to Chevy Vette Fest in 2007 or 2008 just like it was when I owned it and the car presented itself well.
I would have enjoyed being a part of the article and being able to tell the complete story of the car, as it is unique and there is much more that would be entertaining to know, but it didn't work that way. I learned of it through a phone call from a former owner.
There were a lot of people who helped me document the car.. Harry Snow (the collector I bought it from in 1994), Brian Edwards, Jeff Dotterer, Chris White, Rick Nelson, Rick Peters, Kevin Bierman (sp?), others on Team Chevelle and the other websites, etc...but NOT the current owner. The things written about in the article were common knowledge on here and other sites, and I posted about them BEFORE the current owner was even in the picture.
We are all just caretakers of these cars and keeping their factual history intact should be paramount to us...The current owner should be applauded for spending the money to properly restore the car and for others to enjoy. I hope the people who were instrumental in researching the early LS6, the L78/LS6 "timeline", "pilot" cars, etc.. get "props" as well as the owner for owning a cool car.
Respectfully
Greg Carlson
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I don't have a dog in this hunt but might I offer an observation? According to many the Baltimore plant manager told the proposed buyer it'd be the first LS6 built, or something to that effect. Since there were 6 Chevelle plants in the U.S. in 1970, couldn't each plant manager have said something similar to someone else? Is the Baltimore car the first of all the LS6 cars assembled for public sale or is it possible it's only the first from Baltimore and maybe another plant built an earlier one; or at least one they could call the first built since it's from their plant?
Wouldn't one have to know when the first LS6 from all 6 plants were built in order to claim the overall title of "first?"
Wouldn't one have to know when the first LS6 from all 6 plants were built in order to claim the overall title of "first?"
Logical, flawlessly logical.
The latest issue of Musclecar Review (just came day before yesterday) states that they have been contacted by another owner of a GM of Canada documented LS6 with an earlier build date than the Green car and the magazine was almost apologizing for being so definitive in their 'first car' wording. They expressed regret in not using better judgement knowing that there are too many variables, especially with the lack of documentation from GM, in making such a claim. Anybody know of this earlier car. Is it the one that has been talked about so much on here with the November build date? If that's the one, I'm not touching it!
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