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Do you guys forsee the modern day muscle cars ever having the collectability that the original muscle cars have had? I have considered buying a new Camaro. Maybe not brand new but 2011 or newer convertible. I really want the SS, but they are pricey.My girlfriend had a 2010 and hated it for various reasons such as drivability in winter and the low roof line visibility etc. She traded it in. Anyway, that's her problem. I have test driven them and want one. Will these cars and the Challengers etc ever be sought after like these Chevelles are? The thing that concerns me with a Camaro is, look at all the 80's and 90's camaros around. There are tons snd most are ragged out junk with not much value. Will these newer ones be the same way?
 

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Yes, they will be collectable someday.

No, I wouldn't buy a car today ... with the thought that you'll have a collector's item!

When the Chevelle's were 10-20yrs old ... they were just cheap transportation too. In that period, '55-57 were the collectables. It all comes with time. Since you bought it up, if you're interested in buying into a collectable car ... 3rd Camaro's and Fox-body Mustangs are CHEAP, and their day will come.

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At around 15 years old they reach their lowest price. Then the best of the best start to rise. 30-40 years later they reach their peak.

So in 2028 buy the best example you can find and sell it in 2053 for a fine profit.

Good luck. I'll be dead.
 

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Everybody hopes these cars will be worth something in the future. The only thing their almost a cookie cutter of the next one. Look at all the special models of different vehicles that were made in the last 30 years that when you went into the showroom the salesman would tell you this will be a real collector car. How many are even drawing what people paid for them back then let alone getting more for them. I myself have owned both a 05 Mustang GT and a 09 Challenger R/T both real nice cars but I went back to the old cars there's just something about them.
 

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I bought my 95 Z28 convertible new and was hoping it might someday be a collector type car. Its all black, 6 speed with all the good options and I have every original part that I have taken off for maintenance or performance improvement. With that being said, I still drove the heck out of it and got my moneys worth out of it.
I really don't see it ever being worth what I paid for it. I can still hope though ;)
 

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Vintage musclecars have their appeal because we lived our youth in them, spent half my time either wrenching, washing, driving or entertaining in them. What time wasn't spent in, on, or close by our cars, we spent dreaming of the next opportunity to do so. I think the smart-phone replaced the muscle car.
 

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I was going to reply.. but the more I wrote the more it became a session about his society has been trained to buy the next new thing, while the one they have works just fine.. (like my wife and her phones...).. and there is no attachment to cars etc... and if something is the slightest bit hard they go to the next thing.. and I totally forgot what the question was....

Oh yes.. the young crowd today doest care enough about what they drive to pay up for it in 30 years.. my opinion. Where i work... cars are replaced about every 2 to 3 years about... for the next shiny thing. I work with mid to late 20 year olds.I started my kids out early though... he's 10 and he is searching for his first "classic"....


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At around 15 years old they reach their lowest price. Then the best of the best start to rise. 30-40 years later they reach their peak.
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So prices of 69 Chevelles and Camaros peaked some years ago and are in decline?
Wait, for now that seems to be true :)
Sorry, slow thinker.
I suspect the prices will increase over the years though...
 

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I wasn't looking at it as ever getting my money back....more of the cool factor of having something the equivalent of a LS5 or LS6 Chevelle.
 

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Predicting the future gives me a headache, but looking at the Challenger and Mustang makes me want to buy.

The Camaro, like all recent GM styling makes me want to barf. On the world stage the Cadillac may run, but has low quality.

I've never owned a Chrysler product, and nothing against them. I've read the Challenger is a big car but of the three, I think it looks the best.

Oddly, I've had more Fords than GM, but my family tradition is GM. After writing that, I guess I now understand religion. A little.

Sadly, as a GM lover, Ford is a way better run company.

I still can't talk myself into a new Camaro.
Bad styling.
Poorly run company for 40 years.
Love the drivetrain.
 

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Nope...not in my opinion... Besides, Muscle cars weren't great investment either, if you consider the "opportunity lost" in having the $ sitting tied up for 40 years waiting for an increase... Way too risky from a dollars and cents perspective.

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I believe the original muscle car craze is where investment money as a collectible will remain. These cars were not sold as collectibles and that is part of the reason they are. Everything since is just cheap plastic crap. The fact that these modern cars are taking their styling from the muscle car era backs this up. They may have value someday, but by the time a 2010 SS Camaro becomes worth and average of $75-100K in mint form, an original 1970 LS6-5 Chevelle will be worth 6 million.
 

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Predicting the future gives me a headache, but looking at the Challenger and Mustang makes me want to buy.

The Camaro, like all recent GM styling makes me want to barf. On the world stage the Cadillac may run, but has low quality.

I've never owned a Chrysler product, and nothing against them. I've read the Challenger is a big car but of the three, I think it looks the best.

Oddly, I've had more Fords than GM, but my family tradition is GM. After writing that, I guess I now understand religion. A little.

Sadly, as a GM lover, Ford is a way better run company.

I still can't talk myself into a new Camaro.
Bad styling.
Poorly run company for 40 years.
Love the drivetrain.
If you noticed by my other post I didn't buy a new Camaro real good drivetrain but one ugly looking car and I'm a Chevy person from way back. My 09 Challenger was probably one of the nicest cars I owned very roomy and just a all around nice car. I thought I would keep the Challenger forever but the love of the old cars won out and I went back to my 71 Malibu.
 

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I bought my 95 Z28 convertible new and was hoping it might someday be a collector type car. Its all black, 6 speed with all the good options and I have every original part that I have taken off for maintenance or performance improvement. With that being said, I still drove the heck out of it and got my moneys worth out of it.
I really don't see it ever being worth what I paid for it. I can still hope though ;)
Funny you mention this. I was thinking about the 93-96 LT1 cars since they really made a big step performance wise that to me is historic. The problem is the LS1 cars exist for not much more money.

I was 16 in 1995 and my buddy let me drive his dads Polo Green 1995 6 speed. First performance car I ever banged gears in and it was so easy I looked like a pro. I also got pulled over for doing 70 in a 35 and somehow got let off with a warning. That being said, I love the LS1 powerplant but I plan on owning a 6 Speed LT1 Z28 with T-Tops, Optispark and all.

As long as these experiences continue to be had, there will be a future collector market.
 

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There will be far too many of the modern "muscle" cars kept in "survivor" condition in 40 years. Way too many people expect them to become collectible. They're owned by middle-aged guys who take great care of them, and few are ever driven in bad weather. They are garaged, pampered, driven sparingly, and kept pristine.

The 60s and 70s musclecars were bought new by young people who drove them as their only car. They got beat up, rusted, wrecked, and junked. The ones that miraculously made it through all that, are now collectible because of the high attrition rate.

The only modern cars that will be collectible will be the ones that were bought by young people, beat up, and wrecked. Stuff like an Integra Type-R for example. Thieves have cut up and parted out so many of those cars, the few left will be very collectible.
 

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While they may end up being collectibles, I think it will be for different reasons. IMO, one of the big reasons our cars have had such strong demand is the ease of working on them and the common availability of parts. Short of pulling the engine or transmission, anyone with even the slightest mechanical inclination can work on the car with no experience and a basic tool set. The cars made after ~2000 are a whole different story. They might be collectibles, but we will be taking them into a shop to be worked on.
 

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Neal is wright and floyd is hilarious...

I recently saw a list of "Classic Cars of 2033" on MSN.com. The information (which is obviously speculative) for the article was provided by Hagerty. The Chevy Camaro ZL1 convertible made the list so if you have an extra +/- $70K to buy one you can "invest" in it. The Dodge Viper SRT and 2013 Corvette 427 made the list, each at about $100K.

All of that said, the Subaru BRZ/Scion FRS made the list as did a Volkswagen GTI and Ford Focus to so maybe if you're not looking to wager your retirement...

Here's the article:http://editorial.autos.msn.com/classic-cars-of-2033-1
 
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