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So someone cloned an SS from an L79 ? or was the L79 an option for an SS in 65? I'm thinking only 396 for SS in 65, people did strange stuff back in those days lol
 

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So someone cloned an SS from an L79 ? or was the L79 an option for an SS in 65? I'm thinking only 396 for SS in 65, people did strange stuff back in those days lol
Rick the SS 396 started in 66. They did have a package called Z16 for 65 but I have very little knowledge about those and hopefully a 65 expert will step in and provide some facts. I know they used a gang stamp that you can see on the block id however the 2 is a bit off. My 68 partial VIN also used a gang but not sure in 65. They certainly didn't on this engine.
 

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201 lucky people got the Z16 396 option in 65. The rest were 283 and 327, and I think even some straight 6's. I think L79 was an option, but not positive.
Funny back then SS on some cars could be 6 bangers. My brother bought a 67 Impala SS from the original owner (family) and it had a 6 banger. It actually got stolen. I bet it pissed off the thieves when they put the pedal down.:rolleyes:
 

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Before 1966 the super sport package was a trim option only consisting of buckets console and extra body moldings. You could order whatever engine you wanted in a 65 chevelle with the super sport package from 6 cylinder 283 327 L79 327 or 396. It this case we have a 65 SS that was originally an L79 327 car converted to big block with the owner saving the cars original engine in his parts stash. Owner passes away and auction house sells the car as is with the big block in it and then sells the cars number matching vin stamped L79 ENGINE that belonged in that car in a separate auction NOT knowing what it was for
 

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So someone cloned an SS from an L79 ? or was the L79 an option for an SS in 65? I'm thinking only 396 for SS in 65, people did strange stuff back in those days lol
I think you are right. Looks like they were cloning a Z16 or just wanted a 396.
Curious why no dash top clock or tach? They both came in an L79 in an SS.
L79 was an optional motor in 65 in a Malibu or SS. Even a 2 door wagon.
I would have liked to see the trim tag.
 

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Before 1966 the super sport package was a trim option only consisting of buckets console and extra body moldings. You could order whatever engine you wanted in a 65 chevelle with the super sport package from 6 cylinder 283 327 L79 327 or 396. It this case we have a 65 SS that was originally an L79 327 car converted to big block with the owner saving the cars original engine in his parts stash. Owner passes away and auction house sells the car as is with the big block in it and then sells the cars number matching vin stamped L79 ENGINE that belonged in that car in a separate auction NOT knowing what it was for
Dumbshit auction house IMO, it's a real shame that engine parted ways from it's original home
 

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A lot of misinformation here.
1965:
L79 was an engine option that required certain transmission and differentials (12 bolt and option of heavy duty 3 speed or 4 speed).
L79 could be ordered in any Chevelle/El Camino.
Tachometer was a separate option.
SS was a separate option.
Z16 was a package with a long list of required pieces. They were built and people had the option to buy or not.
(375HP 396, 4 speed, 12 bolt, AM/FM stereo multiplex, boxed frame, larger front and rear drum brakes adapted from full size Chevrolet. Unique rear trim package, rear sway bar, and probably some things I have forgotten.)
1965 was the first year for VIN stamp on engine block, L79 and Z16 only. The L79 stamps were not gang stamp, individually stamped and not very straight.
 

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Before 1966 the super sport package was a trim option only consisting of buckets console and extra body moldings. You could order whatever engine you wanted in a 65 chevelle with the super sport package from 6 cylinder 283 327 L79 327 or 396. It this case we have a 65 SS that was originally an L79 327 car converted to big block with the owner saving the cars original engine in his parts stash. Owner passes away and auction house sells the car as is with the big block in it and then sells the cars number matching vin stamped L79 ENGINE that belonged in that car in a separate auction NOT knowing what it was for
No, it was not a trim option. It was a unique series (actually two) separately identified by the VIN. Just a FYI.
 

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A lot of misinformation here.
1965:
L79 was an engine option that required certain transmission and differentials (12 bolt and option of heavy duty 3 speed or 4 speed).
L79 could be ordered in any Chevelle/El Camino.
Tachometer was a separate option.
SS was a separate option.
Z16 was a package with a long list of required pieces. They were built and people had the option to buy or not.
(375HP 396, 4 speed, 12 bolt, AM/FM stereo multiplex, boxed frame, larger front and rear drum brakes adapted from full size Chevrolet. Unique rear trim package, rear sway bar, and probably some things I have forgotten.)
1965 was the first year for VIN stamp on engine block, L79 and Z16 only. The L79 stamps were not gang stamp, individually stamped and not very straight.
Verle, I am sure you know this and your post was specific to the 1965 but to be clear for other members my L79 in 68 used gang stamps. Also even though a partial VIN was Federally required for all cars in 68 my 69 SS Camaro had nothing but HA (MT 350/300 L48) on the engine pad. I bought her back in the mid 70's with 30k miles and a real professional appraiser " Wild Bill" who I am sure is well known on this forum later verified it as authentic. Back then we didn't pay much attention to engine stamps except to verify the engine. So sometimes back in the day things were not as consistent as we might think.
 

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No, it was not a trim option. It was a unique series (actually two) separately identified by the VIN. Just a FYI.
Oh really....? Last i remember all ss cars built before 66 consists of bucket seats and different interior/exterior trim along with extra body moldings (which basically is a trim package) Sorry i left out the unique vin part which is known but irrelevant. Please leave the comment analizing or correcting on facebook. thanks
 

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I think what Dave was pointing out is an important distinction so that when someone is looking at a 64/65 Malibu or Malibu SS they can check the vin to know what the car began life as. I understand that some don’t care as long as it’s optioned as they prefer today. But if two 64/65 cars today are in the exact same condition I’d be willing to bet the V8 SS car always brings more money. Just for clarification vin in 65 starting with 135 started life as a Malibu with a 6 cylinder, 136 was a Malibu with an 8 cylinder, 137 was a Malibu SS with a 6 cylinder, and 138 was a Malibu SS with an 8 cylinder.

To Verle’s point I have seen one exception in 65 where a 300 horse engine has the partial vin.
 

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I think what Dave was pointing out is an important distinction so that when someone is looking at a 64/65 Malibu or Malibu SS they can check the vin to know what the car began life as. I understand that some don’t care as long as it’s optioned as they prefer today. But if two 64/65 cars today are in the exact same condition I’d be willing to bet the V8 SS car always brings more money. Just for clarification vin in 65 starting with 135 started life as a Malibu with a 6 cylinder, 136 was a Malibu with an 8 cylinder, 137 was a Malibu SS with a 6 cylinder, and 138 was a Malibu SS with an 8 cylinder.

To Verle’s point I have seen one exception in 65 where a 300 horse engine has the partial vin.
I learned something today. I didn't realize that all Chevelle SS cars up to and including 68 were not all 138 cars. Didn't realize that a 6 banger was a 137. Cool
 

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not quite, 65 was the last year for 6 cylinder with SS option. All 66-68 SS cars are V8 big block 138 vin only
I guess I should have stated a different VIN model designation and not kept it to Chevelle only as my brothers 67 SS Impala had a six banger and it probably (only guessing) had a different VIN assigned. Same for Nova SS and maybe for Camaro SS
 

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I guess I should have stated a different VIN model designation and not kept it to Chevelle only as my brothers 67 SS Impala had a six banger and it probably (only guessing) had a different VIN assigned. Same for Nova SS and maybe for Camaro SS
Same with my cousin's 64 Ford. 😁
 
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