[Derek69SS]

http://www.nascar.com/2007/news/headlines/cup/02/15/jgordon.duels.inspection/index.html

If it was anyone else, there would have been a points-penalty too, like the other 5 they caught this week. Matt Kenseth loses 50 points for a plug falling out of a hole (intentional or not) but Gordon gets none for a major aero infraction. :sad:

It's been an interesting week for NASCAR fans.

 

[novaderrik]

so, how's this season gonna play out?
is NASCAR gonna do whatever it takes to give Toyota the Cup, or are they gonna let Jr or Gordon pick it up?

 

[novaderrik]

"Robin Pemberton, NASCAR's vice president for competition, said bolts had been misaligned on the rear shocks installed prior to Thursday's race. Once the race started, the load on those misaligned bolts caused the car's quarterpanels, but not the roof, to be lower than the minimum allowed height."

huh? how does that work? the roof is welded to the quarters..
or is that just some "dumbed down for average Joe spectator" wording?

 

[earl e]

They even let him keep the win. ????????????????

 

[Derek69SS]

huh? how does that work? the roof is welded to the quarters..
or is that just some "dumbed down for average Joe spectator" wording?

What I understand is that the back of the car was 1" too low... so the roof should have been about 1/2" too low... but there was probably more benefit to the fact the rear spoiler was down in less air creating far less drag on a track where downforce doesn't really matter.

They even let him keep the win. ????????????????

NASCAR never takes a win away. They may take all your points, but you're still credited with the win.

 

[novaderrik]

shouldn't they at least cite the "or other actions deemed detrimental to racing" or whatever rule they threw at MW over the intake manifold thing?
and how does a shock mounting bolt affect the height of the car? they don't run coilovers.
if anything, maybe the weight jacking screws might have been set too low or something, and i seem to recall other drivers being fined and what not for being too low in the past.

someone needs to find a way to start up a grassroots racing league to take on NASCAR- there ought to be plenty of tracks to race on- just use all the tracks NASCAR has left in the dust in favor of all the cookie cutter 1.5 mile ovals.

 

[bubba68ss]

its the week of Anna Nicole and NASCAR cheaters... ive had the tv off most of the time. Been working on the chevelle(s)!

 

[dittoz]

From Nascar.com:

NASCAR inspectors said his Chevrolet was almost an inch too low but blamed it on a part failure -- not cheating. He was not stripped of the victory.

"We feel it was unintentional, and actually fairly unsafe," said NASCAR competition director Robin Pemberton. "We feel that it was a part failure, and we feel that it was unitentionally done. I think it would be marginal at best if there was any advantage.

"I am 100 percent sure this is unintentional."
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I never did understand what all the Gordon-hating was about. He's not any different than any of the other young guns out there...

 

[chevguy65]

I don't like Jeff, but that said if they are certain it was due to a part failure, then I see no reason to penalize the fool.

 

[Ricks70ss]

Give him the boot. The little whining little sissy. Man I hate that dude or dudette. what ever he is

 

[dittoz]

Give him the boot. The little whining little sissy. Man I hate that dude or dudette. what ever he is

Not sticking up for him or anything, but why do you say "little whining little sissy" ? What's he done that's any different than any other? He gets hit, he complains. Someone else gets hit, they complain. They're all about the same as far as I can tell. Or, is it a jealousy thing? I notice Jimmie Johnson gets sucked into the mix too and he drives a lot like Tony Stewart...

I watch the SPORT and not the DRIVER so I'm not a fan of any single driver really. That said, I don't see where Jeff Gordon is any different than many others.

Now Robbie Gordon... THERE is a whiner from my observations!

 

[-SS454-]

Being an inch lower would make a pretty massive difference at 185 mph. If the car was an inch lower, then it would be on purpose, otherwise the car would have been bottoming out the entire way around the track. They set the cars up to have the front air dam nearly sealed to the track at speed, so being an inch lower than that would have dragged it along the pavement.

 

[Bowtie-72]

I'm trying to figure out how someone who will probably replace the shocks several times per weekend of racing would "misalign" a bolt for EACH side. Also, I am curious how only the 1/4 panels would be too low and not the roof, unless the roof was intentionally higher than required at the start, and then "settled" into a lower but still legal height. I suppose that the measurement point may have not been lower if it were midway back or more forward.

As for the driver not knowing, I'm thinking it's very likely. The crew chief and crew do what they can to get the car ready, and if the driver isn't aware, he can't slip up and mention anything about it. Plus, the driver really doesn't need to know about details like this other than "Hey Jeff, we have a new setup in the back that should give you a little less downforce, but also less drag. Be aware of it when at speed."

 

[quikss]

Being an inch lower would make a pretty massive difference at 185 mph. If the car was an inch lower, then it would be on purpose, otherwise the car would have been bottoming out the entire way around the track. They set the cars up to have the front air dam nearly sealed to the track at speed, so being an inch lower than that would have dragged it along the pavement.

Read NASCAR.com's article about it, even Jeff Burton says it was little if any help. He clearly stated he was angry about the minor penalty until he saw the infraction first hand and then realized it was dealt with appropriately.

Jeff

 

[ssal396]

I never did understand what all the Gordon-hating was about. He's not any different than any of the other young guns out there...

LOL, I think that he was just a little ahead of his time.. Now a day's all the young guns are coming on just as strong & taking the heat off of him..

 

[quikss]

LOL, I think that he was just a little ahead of his time.. Now a day's all the young guns are coming on just as strong & taking the heat off of him..

It's all jealousy. He's a guy with driving talent that exceeds nearly 99% of the population, is married to a european super model and is a multi, multi, multi millionaire that gets to do what he loves for a living.

Jeff

 

[ssal396]

I would agree, but the point I was trying to make was that a lot of people love to hate him because he was so good when he first hit the scene.. I think a lot of people thought he hadn't "payed his dues" .. Now, it seems like every new driver that comes along has the golden touch, if you want to hate every one of the guys that fit that bill, you're going to be hating half of the field..

For some reason, Gordon can't shake it though.. It's funny at every race I've been to (many) durring the driver intro's, 1/2 the people are booing him and the other 1/2 are cheering, people just seem to love him or hate him..

 

[bdubya]

I would agree, but the point I was trying to make was that a lot of people love to hate him because he was so good when he first hit the scene.. I think a lot of people thought he hadn't "payed his dues" ..

I for one am a Gordon fan. Started before he first hit it big, he still had a moustache! It all stems from him doing very well at an early stage in NASCAR. When the new kid starts beating the current favorite(which was Dale Sr. at the time) people get mad/ jealous. Gordon may have already surpassed Dale Sr. in total wins (in alot less time no doubt, and in a time when rules are WAY more strict and the competition is even tougher) He will be known as one of the greatest drivers of all time. Funny, cause Dale Jr no doubt had a silver spoon and noone boos him at the track?!? Go Gordon!

 

[quikss]

Gordon may have already surpassed Dale Sr. in total wins (in alot less time no doubt, and in a time when rules are WAY more strict and the competition is even tougher) He will be known as one of the greatest drivers of all time. Funny, cause Dale Jr no doubt had a silver spoon and noone boos him at the track?!? Go Gordon!

No he hasn't!! Gordon has one more to go to tie Dale Sr. and 3 more championships to go to tie him their.

Jeff

 

[Derek69SS]

It's all jealousy. He's a guy with driving talent that exceeds nearly 99% of the population, is married to a european super model and is a multi, multi, multi millionaire that gets to do what he loves for a living.

If that were true, wouldn't we hate all NASCAR drivers?

Show me one NASCAR driver that isn't a better driver than 99 out of 100 people, doesn't have his pick of thousands of women that want a rich/famous man, doesn't make more money than me, and doesn't enjoy his job.

My extreme dislike for Gordon is mostly from the way he talks through his nose in a whiny voice, is never funny, always blames someone else, and of-course his pretty-boy image.

Would I trade places with him? Hell yeah, but I'd lose that Hollywood image, and get down to my ******* roots.