[rubadub]

I just sent CNN News an email. (yeah I know I wasted my time, but i'm trying)

I told them I haven't heard the word plant manager in any of the news casts.

So I told them to ask the owners of the plant to put the plant managers on tv and ask them what is going on.

A nuclear plant manager does understand the systems ( reactor, reactor coolant pumps, steam generators and steam turbines) and how everything works, they work real close with the operators (operations).

Anyway its pretty ridiculous, they want our help but won't come out with whats going on.

I feel really bad for the people over there, its a terrible thing they are going through, but when we send our Navy in there or off shore they (the japanese) need to come clean with the information on whats going on.

Then again whats with the Navy going into the area without good information, its a good thing they understand air sampling.

Rob

 

[Elcoman]

The US Navy are experts when it comes to Nuclear radiation. During the Cold War we had spy subs locating and salvaging Russian Nuclear subs that sank. So I am sure the US knows more than what the news is telling us.

My grandfather served on this Sub. http://www.submarinebooks.com/SpySub.htm

His Sub is going into the Sub Hall of Fame May 26, 2011.:beers:

http://users.rcn.com/marelk/Artifacts/hall_of_fame.htm

 

[rubadub]

The US Navy are experts when it comes to Nuclear radiation. During the Cold War we had spy subs locating and salvaging Russian Nuclear subs that sank. So I am sure the US knows more than what the news is telling us.

My grandfather served on this Sub. http://www.submarinebooks.com/SpySub.htm

His Sub is going into the Sub Hall of Fame May 26, 2011.:beers:

This is true, but I was working in the power plants when the X Nuclear Navy guys hired in, they knew the technical part, but as far as there exposure to any major contamination or very high dose rates, thats a little different deal.

They were good as technicians, but to repeat here, the plant managers need to step up to the plate.

Then on the other hand are all the navy ships or carriers outfitted with samplers and radiation detectors.

If I remember right the lifetime dose for most of the X Nuclear Navy guys coming into the power plants was around 50 millirem.

Not many years ago a contractor technician coming in for a 3 month refueling would pick up 400 to 800 millirem easy.

If all they picked up was 50 millirem in 4 or 6 years in the Navy they obviously didn't get into the thick of it.

I'm not at all criticizing them, they are excellent at what they do and I am proud of them for everything they do, but they need the information up front.

Rob

 

[marxjunk]

I read somewhere the US cant detect a nuclear blast from space, no matter how small..even underground...Im sure our military know how much, and are all over it...

I find myself feeling bad for the common citizens over there...it must truely be hell on earth.....

on another note...being the world power they have become...and all the investments in and outside of the country....nuclear problems arent good for business....im sure its worse than we think and and im sure they are spinning it off and already have people in line to blame...im sure proof is in the stock market.....you can probably feel it droppping if you just sit quiet and just listen...lol

 

[davewho1]

I don't know beans about nuclear plants, just what little I've read and seen on TV.

BUT - if keeping the reactor/core cool is so critical, why don't they have triple or quadruple redundant systems for pumping coolant water in?

MOST ESPECIALLY in a country so prone to earthquakes? I don't get it ... :noway:

 

[forcd ind]

not all countrys blab all their information on national TV like the US does-maybe we should follow
im sure the guys over there have the information they need to stay safe
how much info was let out about 3 mile island right away
i dont think reactor problems are made as big as they are because it turns the public against them, in case they want to build more
you dont see the people in Japan rioting and looting like New Orleans, lol

 

[elco68]

Its the changing of lately of magnetic north. With the core rotating different,areas that somewhat weak before is getting more pressure on them now.

 

[Dean]

I just sent CNN News an email. (yeah I know I wasted my time, but i'm trying)

I told them I haven't heard the word plant manager in any of the news casts.

So I told them to ask the owners of the plant to put the plant managers on tv and ask them what is going on.

A nuclear plant manager does understand the systems ( reactor, reactor coolant pumps, steam generators and steam turbines) and how everything works, they work real close with the operators (operations).

Anyway its pretty ridiculous, they want our help but won't come out with whats going on.

I feel really bad for the people over there, its a terrible thing they are going through, but when we send our Navy in there or off shore they (the japanese) need to come clean with the information on whats going on.

Then again whats with the Navy going into the area without good information, its a good thing they understand air sampling.

Rob

I don't see how putting any information on the news for us common folks is going to do anything to get them more help. I'm sure that the people that need to know, do know it all.

I know that I certainly have no way of helping no mater how much any plant manager might say.

 

[Raven1]

People need to educate themselves about the media, who controls it, and how much the citizens of the world are allowed to know. If one is not aware of this, and does not do the work to acquire additional information, they choose ignorance. If one lives solely by the superficial and controlled information provided on the TV, they inhibit intellectual development and stifle knowledge acquision. The "News". Please, give me a break.

 

[JWagner]

The Japanese are not likely to ask for or accept help from outsiders. Years ago, a Japan Airlines 747 lost part of its control system and after some hours, it made a semi-controlled crash at night. The US military offered to do an immediate search and rescue operation. They were rebuffed. People that survived the crash died from exposure overnight.

 

[JWagner]

These events in Japan will actually have some influence here. For a while, there was renewed interest in nuclear power in the US, as people are becoming more concerned over pollution, carbon and so on. The nuke plant avoids these nicely. Now this situation in Japan will stoke up the fearmongers that have effectively blocked any new plants here. We are pretty much screwed on this front.

 

[PaPa Johns 77]

BIL worked for years in SAC. (retired now) He said one day "remember all those drills we had every month back in school? Well they were all for show. To make you feel safer. If we were under attack and had incoming missles the government will not issue a warning. This is because it would serve no purpose as far as people surviving a hit and the last thing they want is panic in the streets!"

This is no different only those who "need to know" have the whole story. I had to turn the news off they were hyping what they know nothing about so bad! Every time they get some crumb of new (newer) information they rush to get it out ahead of the other guy only to have someone that actually knows what they are talking about come on and contradict them!
They in about 30 minutes to an hour they will find some slug of a self proclaimed expert who will try and make it look like they wern't really that wrong!:sad:

 

[1966_L78]

BIL worked for years in SAC. (retired now) He said one day "remember all those drills we had every month back in school? Well they were all for show. To make you feel safer. If we were under attack and had incoming missles the government will not issue a warning. This is because it would serve no purpose as far as people surviving a hit and the last thing they want is panic in the streets!"

This is no different only those who "need to know" have the whole story. I had to turn the news off they were hyping what they know nothing about so bad! Every time they get some crumb of new (newer) information they rush to get it out ahead of the other guy only to have someone that actually knows what they are talking about come on and contradict them!
They in about 30 minutes to an hour they will find some slug of a self proclaimed expert who will try and make it look like they wern't really that wrong! :sad:

I had to laugh when one of the networks actually had on "Bill Nye, the Science guy" to talk about Japan's reactor problems... Yeah, there's someone I really trust to understand whats going on... "Who can we get in the studio that will sound intellegent? How about that guy with the wacky eyebrows and bow-tie?" l


Last night one of the networks had on an expert, but at least his day job had to do with Nuclear reactors... He didn't seem worried about the Japan reactors, and at least he had some logical reasoning going on...


IMO, the plant manager should NOT be talking to the media... I am sure the Plant manager is busy and likely he is keeping government officials informed...

maybe there is going to be a major meltdown, but it doesn't do any good to tell the world-wide media about it... Tell the local media, and you might have mass histeria... tell the people its only a precaution, and its easier to move them to a save distance... But telling CNN/Fox/MSNBC/etc in a press conference? Not needed...

Sure, I'd love to know whats going on...



I wonder, does a major meltdown put more radition into the atmosphere that above ground atomic bomb testing???

 

[Big James 4XL]

:sad:Any time you loose a containment building it's all down hill from there. Even if the reactor does survive the blast there will be radiation released. It seems the present design does not have a way to deal with the hydrogen produced which almost blew up TMI and did blow up the Japanise containment.

I'm very much pro nuke but I'm distressed that the redundant sytems have failed in this incident. This will mean we will have to rethink these systems in the stateside nuke plants. It seems the reliance on electrical devices to activate the emergency cooling systems is a big flaw. I'm thinking a water/boron storage tank with manual valves would be appropriate. Probably not a good idea to build a nuke in an earthquake zone either.:sad:

 

[Showalter]

I am happy that they DID shut down the Gaming networks over there. ( i play Final Fantasy 11) But they shut them down to conserve power, i like that. considering that 1 mil players yeilds 12.95 million a month for them. im glad to see that SOME parts of the world are okay letting luxuries go first.

i do have a cousin in Oki right now, but he is fine, there are a couple friends i havent heard from, but we will see when things get cleared up.

 

[cheveslakr]

: Probably not a good idea to build a nuke in an earthquake zone either.:sad:

Too late, southern CA has a few down there and it's just a matter of time before the west coast is hit with another major quake. I'm confident the precautions taken are adequate though. :wacko:

 

[LevonH]

I'm thinking a water/boron storage tank with manual valves would be appropriate. Probably not a good idea to build a nuke in an earthquake zone either.:sad:

The Canadian CANDU reactor has a HUGE tank placed above the rods. Exact strategy that was suggested is used in those designs.

 

[Sleeper '69]

:sad:Any time you loose a containment building it's all down hill from there. Even if the reactor does survive the blast there will be radiation released. It seems the present design does not have a way to deal with the hydrogen produced which almost blew up TMI and did blow up the Japanise containment.

It was on the news today the Japanese plants are designed/built by GE. There are 124 just like them across the USA.

I quit following the nuke program some time ago because of the politics involved, but do they still generate as much nuclear waste as they used to? What are they doing with it and where/how are they disposing of it?

Some a$$hole politician suggested storing the barrels of this crap in the ocean for safe storage.....He should have been strapped to the first barrel.

 

[driller]

I just sent CNN News an email. (yeah I know I wasted my time, but i'm trying)

I told them I haven't heard the word plant manager in any of the news casts.

So I told them to ask the owners of the plant to put the plant managers on tv and ask them what is going on.

A nuclear plant manager does understand the systems ( reactor, reactor coolant pumps, steam generators and steam turbines) and how everything works, they work real close with the operators (operations).

Anyway its pretty ridiculous, they want our help but won't come out with whats going on.

I feel really bad for the people over there, its a terrible thing they are going through, but when we send our Navy in there or off shore they (the japanese) need to come clean with the information on whats going on.

Then again whats with the Navy going into the area without good information, its a good thing they understand air sampling.

Rob

Our entire Naval Seventh fleet is actually stationed in Yokosuka, Japan. I'm sure they are very aware of and probably knee deep in the current events. We also have several Naval air stations in Japan and Okinawa.

 

[Elcoman]

I am happy that they DID shut down the Gaming networks over there. ( i play Final Fantasy 11) But they shut them down to conserve power, i like that. considering that 1 mil players yeilds 12.95 million a month for them. im glad to see that SOME parts of the world are okay letting luxuries go first.

i do have a cousin in Oki right now, but he is fine, there are a couple friends i havent heard from, but we will see when things get cleared up.

WOW>Final Fantasy.