Happy Anniversary Woodstock!
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what percentage of that show actually lives up to the legendary status is has gained over the years?
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It wasn't the concert that was special, It was what it represented during a key time in the culture and upheaval of the time.
There will never be another Woodstock because there will never be another time like the late 60"s. My only regret is that I was only 4 at that time.
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i'll expand my question, then- how much of the late 60's was as awesome as the legendary status that is has gained since then?
is it only considered to be so awesome because that's when the baby boomers started to party? and was Woodstock so awesome because of the hundreds of thousands of boomers that really don't have any clear memories of anything that happened to them while they were there? was Sha-Na-Na really that awesome?
was most of it's reputation built based on the movie that was filmed during the festival?
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I'll have to leave that to the ones that were old enough to remember it. But In my opinion, I consider it as the awakening of the nation. No more status quot, People stopped blindly believing everything they were told and started to question the Government.
What makes legends, coincidence, circumstances,time?
Woodstock could have turned ugly without too much effort. Hundreds of thousands more people than expected; lack of food, shelter, facilities, medical treatment;the weather; having to fly in and out acts and equipment. I would say the planets were aligned for those 3 days.
The promoters lost money on Woodstock, what would have happened had they walked away?
I was 15 and in Germany, but Woodstock was already a legend before the end of that year.
Remember the Rolling Stones and Altamont?
Woodstock could have turned ugly without too much effort. Hundreds of thousands more people than expected; lack of food, shelter, facilities, medical treatment;the weather; having to fly in and out acts and equipment. I would say the planets were aligned for those 3 days.
The promoters lost money on Woodstock, what would have happened had they walked away?
I was 15 and in Germany, but Woodstock was already a legend before the end of that year.
Remember the Rolling Stones and Altamont?
I cant really comment on how legendary the show may have been as I wasnt born until 1972. But the original Woodstock kinda seemed like the last hoorah of this peace movement they were trying to run with back then. I remember seeing something about that Stones concert debacle with Hells Angels running as security a few months later after woodstock, or perhaps the following summer or something along those lines. I understand that was a major faisco.
They tried to duplicate the Woodstock aniversary twice, once when it was turned 25, and then again as dubbed Woodstock 99. Which obviously turned 30. I remember the 25th one was not pretty, major overpriced food and drink causing a lot of dehydration issues, not that thats any different then any other outdoor festival these days. Woodstock 99 was a dissaster as far as fires being started, and just plain unruly crowds really tells you how different today is compared to 1969.
They tried to duplicate the Woodstock aniversary twice, once when it was turned 25, and then again as dubbed Woodstock 99. Which obviously turned 30. I remember the 25th one was not pretty, major overpriced food and drink causing a lot of dehydration issues, not that thats any different then any other outdoor festival these days. Woodstock 99 was a dissaster as far as fires being started, and just plain unruly crowds really tells you how different today is compared to 1969.
It really is quite simple. By concert standards it was not Monterey Pop, or some of the others that took place. By humanity standards it was pretty much everything. It was the end of the 60s, a time that saw more than you can imagine, kids being sent off to war, but not those from families of means. Race riots had been filling tv screens for years, the 68 convention in Chicago a backdrop to assassinations of MLK and Bobby Kennedy. Music didn't change it, but the music was representative of the time. In a small place in NY a half of a million pople came together, without law enforcement, and experienced a time and place where love filled the air, not bombs, and riots,no one beaten by police in the streets, when it rained and made it a mud bog they found a way to have fun. So yes it was an important time, and worth all the coverage it received and has since. Music was the catalyst, but it was not the reason this was an important time in our history. How important was it?, ask the bands that played there, it made many of them legends.
I enlisted and would do it all over again.
Bullschiate.
And dozens died from drug overdoses.
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The drummer (Michel Shrieve) Was only 19 when he played at Woodstock.
If you like early Santana:yes:, I believe he played on the first 5 or 6 albums.
http://www.michaelshrieve.com/biography.html
If you like early Santana:yes:, I believe he played on the first 5 or 6 albums.
http://www.michaelshrieve.com/biography.html
And I thank you for your service! Vietnam vets never got their due if you ask me. They gave up more for less, than any of our sons called to war, in the history of this country.
They returned to this country after having served with honor only to be treated like 2nd class citizens by many of the anti-war movement.
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Those of means started getting darfted after the college deferrment was dropped (had several well to do's in my platoon) although I can remember neighbors borrowing against everything they owned to get their kids in college to avoid the draft only to have the deferrment dropped!
That time and place where love filled the air spwnaed the big west coast gay movement, you know, free love and all that! The if it feels good do it crowd!
STD's ran rampant among goers after the concert! Yeah great times and to think I almost made it there along with some friends but luckily got picked up and jailed by some of Ohio's finest!
They held us just long enough to miss it all then put us on a Greyhound west bound fr home!:yes:
The funny part is those that fought against the "establishment" became that "establishment" that they hated so much and are far worse than those they protested against! If it weren't so sad I'd laugh.:sad:
That time and place where love filled the air spwnaed the big west coast gay movement, you know, free love and all that! The if it feels good do it crowd!
STD's ran rampant among goers after the concert! Yeah great times and to think I almost made it there along with some friends but luckily got picked up and jailed by some of Ohio's finest!
They held us just long enough to miss it all then put us on a Greyhound west bound fr home!:yes:The funny part is those that fought against the "establishment" became that "establishment" that they hated so much and are far worse than those they protested against! If it weren't so sad I'd laugh.:sad:
Those of means started getting darfted after the college deferrment was dropped (had several well to do's in my platoon) although I can remember neighbors borrowing against everything they owned to get their kids in college to avoid the draft only to have the deferrment dropped!
That time and place where love filled the air spwnaed the big west coast gay movement, you know, free love and all that! The if it feels good do it crowd!
STD's ran rampant among goers after the concert! Yeah great times and to think I almost made it there along with some friends but luckily got picked up and jailed by some of Ohio's finest!
The funny part is those that fought against the "establishment" became that "establishment" that they hated so much and are far worse than those they protested against! If it weren't so sad I'd laugh. :sad:
Got that right......
I had a few guys in my Platoon who had one or two years of college, but dropped out to enlist.
YW....and Thanks to ALL of the Veterans that are members here, and those who are Active personnel as well. :beers:
One of my favorite Santana numbers, for sure. I saw him back in the early 90's at an outdoor venue in Cleveland (Nautica Stage) and it was good then, I'll tell you that.
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neither the concert (yea I was there but only because it happened within a few miles of my home) nor the era was as great as it might seem these days. As I said in the earlier post, the concert sucked. too many people, too much mud, you couldn't hear anything unless you were in just the right spot, and if you were you were being stepped on by folks that were drunk or high. Many of my school mates took a multi year vacation into nearby Canada to avoid Nam. Only one (fortunately) of my graduating class didn't survive Nam. Nam and Nixon, Kent state, Watergate, unsafe at any-speed, end of the muscle car, the oil embargo, double didget inflation, inviting china to destroy our industrial base, yea it was a hell of an era.
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