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Hey all, here's a question I'd like to throw out there. :D
Now, first off, I'm normally a pretty conventional guy. :eek: But, in light off the trend in our cars being built lower to the ground these days and the fact that we're using larger diameter exhaust systems such as the 3" pipe and all...do the exhaust systems have to be made out of "round" material? Is there some reason that we could not have a free breathing exhaust system that was built oval or flatter shaped (or even rectangal shaped)?

Yeah, I know, making the tubing would cost more money, yada, yada, yada... :boring:

But just for discussion sake, what would be the pitfalls of an exhaust system that was oval shaped, rectangular shaped, etc, as a way to help with ground clearance problems? Would it affect exhaust perfromance i,e, breathing, "sound", etc?

I know there are some exhaust that are already manufactured in an oval shape, but my bringing this up is really just to provoke "thought and discussion" about unconventionalism as a way to approach the ground clearance issue.

I have had trouble with my '69 Nova for years with ground clearance problems because I choose to use a dual muffler system rather than the usual crossflow type as per factory design for the Nova. Also, I remember dragging off my brand new Turbo mufflers on a Chevelle I had while trying to carefully drive down my Father-in-laws "dirt" road so my wife could pay them a visit. :mad:

Don't the roundy-round boys use a flatter shaped exhaust system (of course, no mufflers)?

Is there something wrong with using an exhaust pipe shape other than round? Would it affect breathing characteristics, etc?

It could be flatter (oval/rectangular) under the body of the car and then convert back to round for conventional tailpipe tips if preferred.

How difficult could it be in this 21st century to manufacture an exhaust sytem that is oval or rectangular,square,etc?

Like I said, this subject is just to promote discussion. What do you all think? Couldn't exhaust be just as effective in some other shape than round? Or, are we really bound by traditionalism and round exhaust? What about some new thinking towards the shape of more "ground clearance freindly" exhaust/muffler shape...something more flatter shaped that would promote more ground clearance...

Just thought I'd provoke some discussion on the subject on this great forum. Anybody care to expound? :)

Just food for thought... Have a great day :thumbsup:
Dave
 

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GM used to offer oval exhaust kits through GM performance about 8-9 years ago or around there. I believe they were sourced from Dynomax (could be wrong). They touted the fact that with a oval exhaust, you gained more flow due to the additional space on the sides, though I would think you could actually go with a smaller height (2" instead of 2-1/2" for instance) and still flow like a 2-1/2".
 

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flow in a tube is mostly based on the cross-sectional area. area of a 2.5" tube is about 5 sq. in. area of a 3" tube is about 7 sq. in. so, to replace either with rectangular tubing you just need a size where width x height = either 5 or 7 sq. in. Oval tubing cuts off the corners so the w x h measurement will have to be a little bigger. AFAIK, like on 3" tubing being replaced by rectangular tubing it wouldn't matter much if it was 1 x 7 or 2 x 3.5, as long as it comes out to 7.
 

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It looks like all round tubing until after the X-pipe where it connects to what looks like either a very flat "oval" or rectangular tubing. Just by eye-balling it, it looks like the rectangular area might have more cross-sectional area, I'm guessing that would be to end the exhaust "tuned length" just after the X and the rest of the tubing is just to get the gasses out from under the car.
 

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>> What else do you notice about that exhaust system?

it's upside down? :)
 

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jeez, you think they're running some kind of tri-y deal on those things?
 

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nasty bend where it goes around the corner at the back of the tranny too.
 

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flow in a tube is mostly based on the cross-sectional area. area of a 2.5" tube is about 5 sq. in. area of a 3" tube is about 7 sq. in. so, to replace either with rectangular tubing you just need a size where width x height = either 5 or 7 sq. in. Oval tubing cuts off the corners so the w x h measurement will have to be a little bigger. AFAIK, like on 3" tubing being replaced by rectangular tubing it wouldn't matter much if it was 1 x 7 or 2 x 3.5, as long as it comes out to 7.
It has to bigger than the cross sectional area of the round due turbulance and friction of the wall.. It makes quite a difference.
 

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Apparently, something other than "round" doesn't seem to bother the NASCAR boys for the sake of ground clearance...which is the reason I started this discussion...ground clearance!

Are we more concerned with the conventional looks of round as opposed to oblong, rectangular, etc?

What about the oval chrome exhaust tips like my '69 Chevelle SS had...remember those? :hurray:I always thought they looked much "cooler looking" than the typical aftermarket round tips!

Dave :thumbsup:
 
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