Ok, I've got this co-worker who just LOVES to try to get under my skin being that I'm a Chevy-Ford-Mopar fan, and not so much of the Honda-Toyota-etc. brands. I've caught him making things up to try to stir things up with me, but the last couple things he's told me has made me question if he's right or not. He's said that Chevy/GM has had Isuzu and/or Nissan (don't remember), make motors for them. I believe he said that the 5 cylinder in the Colorado is made by Isuzu and apparently the diesel engines they've came out with recently are also "import" motors. I know parts and such are made in Mexico, Canada, etc., but that's one thing when they're made in another country, but they're (in my opinion), still GM/Chevy parts. From what he's trying to say, he's making it sound like now other car companies are making motors for Chevy/GM.....is there any truth to this? If not, help me in setting this guy straight....PLEASE! LoL My co-worker is an all around ok guy, but when it comes to cars and the whole domestic vs. import thing, he really tries to get under my skin, and for the most part, I feel like I've done a good job in catching him and turning things around on him, but since I'm not too knowledgable in the new things that Chevy/GM are doing, he's got me 2nd guessing. Anyway, any help and info would be greatly appreciated, thanks! :thumbsup: :beers:
Did Chevy/GM ever have someone else make stuff for them?
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The "new" Nova was a rebadged corolla. The "new" LaMans was (i think) a Honda. The Geo line was a joint venture with Toyota.
The "new" Nova was a rebadged corolla. The "new" LaMans was (i think) a Honda. The Geo line was a joint venture with Toyota.
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Well all of Isuzus current vehicles are GM products, not the other way around. Although I recall that the 5 cylinder is made, or at least designed by Isuzu as well as the Duramax diesel in the GM trucks.
Also notable:
The Chrysler TC, made by maserati.
Mopar used some mitsubishi motors in the 80's and a 1.6 I-4 based off a VW design.
Mitsu's current small truck is a Dodge dakota and used mopar platforms for the starion, early eclipse and other models.
Ford has had joint vehicles with mazda for decades now.
Nissan is the only one that has not traded parts/cars, I could be wrong though.
Tell your buddy its a 2-way street, both sides give and take when it suits them. Just remember that our cars are still better for __________ (insert random arbitrary argument).
Use me (or countless others) as an example, my 69 'velle has been running since 69 with only routine maintenance. Pretty much original everything. Tell him to go find a 69 Honda in that condition.
Well all of Isuzus current vehicles are GM products, not the other way around. Although I recall that the 5 cylinder is made, or at least designed by Isuzu as well as the Duramax diesel in the GM trucks.
Also notable:
The Chrysler TC, made by maserati.
Mopar used some mitsubishi motors in the 80's and a 1.6 I-4 based off a VW design.
Mitsu's current small truck is a Dodge dakota and used mopar platforms for the starion, early eclipse and other models.
Ford has had joint vehicles with mazda for decades now.
Nissan is the only one that has not traded parts/cars, I could be wrong though.
Tell your buddy its a 2-way street, both sides give and take when it suits them. Just remember that our cars are still better for __________ (insert random arbitrary argument).
Use me (or countless others) as an example, my 69 'velle has been running since 69 with only routine maintenance. Pretty much original everything. Tell him to go find a 69 Honda in that condition.
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LMFAO!!! Hahahahha NICE!!!!
Yeah, I know Dodge has had some dealings with Mitsubishi being that they made their own version of the Eclipse. So I guess he was "right" to an extent.
Well all of Isuzus current vehicles are GM products, not the other way around. Although I recall that the 5 cylinder is made, or at least designed by Isuzu as well as the Duramax diesel in the GM trucks.
Also notable:
The Chrysler TC, made by maserati.
Mopar used some mitsubishi motors in the 80's and a 1.6 I-4 based off a VW design.
Mitsu's current small truck is a Dodge dakota and used mopar platforms for the starion, early eclipse and other models.
Ford has had joint vehicles with mazda for decades now.
Nissan is the only one that has not traded parts/cars, I could be wrong though.
Tell your buddy its a 2-way street, both sides give and take when it suits them. Just remember that our cars are still better for __________ (insert random arbitrary argument).
Use me (or countless others) as an example, my 69 'velle has been running since 69 with only routine maintenance. Pretty much original everything. Tell him to go find a 69 Honda in that condition.
LMFAO!!! Hahahahha NICE!!!!
Yeah, I know Dodge has had some dealings with Mitsubishi being that they made their own version of the Eclipse. So I guess he was "right" to an extent.
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The current alternators and power steering (64+)-----Thank Chrysler Corp.
Anything New Process--Chrysler Corp---this would be transfer cases and the 4-spd OD trans found in mid 80s GM pickups.
The ORIGINAL electronic breakerless ignition Chrysler Corp.
And this is something I just found out
Tilt steering columns in late 80s Dodge truck----Saginaw---exact same thing as my 79 chev tilt---------same ignition switch too!!
GM provided the Quadra Trac on the Jeeps along with the electrical componenets
The late Checkers (taxi) were basically an Impala
And the TKO tranny we all know and love was a replacement trans for the Mustang GT
(when those guys got a little spirited and broke the original)
International--remember those???--you needed a serial number to get parts for them---seems they used whatever was on the shelf for assembly (Ford/Chry/GM)(my ol 76 Scout II was predominately Ford)
The manufactures' have been swapping parts forever----Could be why I have a GM ignition switch in my Dodge.
The current alternators and power steering (64+)-----Thank Chrysler Corp.
Anything New Process--Chrysler Corp---this would be transfer cases and the 4-spd OD trans found in mid 80s GM pickups.
The ORIGINAL electronic breakerless ignition Chrysler Corp.
And this is something I just found out
Tilt steering columns in late 80s Dodge truck----Saginaw---exact same thing as my 79 chev tilt---------same ignition switch too!!
GM provided the Quadra Trac on the Jeeps along with the electrical componenets
The late Checkers (taxi) were basically an Impala
And the TKO tranny we all know and love was a replacement trans for the Mustang GT
(when those guys got a little spirited and broke the original)
International--remember those???--you needed a serial number to get parts for them---seems they used whatever was on the shelf for assembly (Ford/Chry/GM)(my ol 76 Scout II was predominately Ford)
The manufactures' have been swapping parts forever----Could be why I have a GM ignition switch in my Dodge.
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I read somewhere that Rolls Royce used the turbo 400 at one time.
I read somewhere that Rolls Royce used the turbo 400 at one time.
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Yea, I have always argued when people would say the small block chevy is one of the most widely used/recognized gm products. In my eyes, the th-400 is one of the mostly widely used products. IN FACT, it is still being produced today for military issued HUMVEEs.
" Today, the U.S. ArmyHUMVEE is the only vehicle using the THM400. The civilian Hummer H1 originally had the 3L80s, but the current model has had a 4L80E since the mid-1990s.
Other non-GM firms have used the THM400 and its 4L80E successor, including Ferrari (in the 400/412), Jeep (usually found in the SJ pickups and SUVs), Jaguar (found in their pre-1997 XJ12 and XJ-S coupes), Rolls-Royce (1968–1980 Silver Shadow), and AM General. It has been known to adapt a THM400 to other engines via the use of adapter plates. During the 1970s, there were more BOP (Buick/Oldsmobile/Pontiac/Cadillac) transmission cores produced for the THM-400, making other transmission cases a rare find. No THM400 was produced with multicase bell housings." (wikipedia)
Yea, I have always argued when people would say the small block chevy is one of the most widely used/recognized gm products. In my eyes, the th-400 is one of the mostly widely used products. IN FACT, it is still being produced today for military issued HUMVEEs.
" Today, the U.S. ArmyHUMVEE is the only vehicle using the THM400. The civilian Hummer H1 originally had the 3L80s, but the current model has had a 4L80E since the mid-1990s.
Other non-GM firms have used the THM400 and its 4L80E successor, including Ferrari (in the 400/412), Jeep (usually found in the SJ pickups and SUVs), Jaguar (found in their pre-1997 XJ12 and XJ-S coupes), Rolls-Royce (1968–1980 Silver Shadow), and AM General. It has been known to adapt a THM400 to other engines via the use of adapter plates. During the 1970s, there were more BOP (Buick/Oldsmobile/Pontiac/Cadillac) transmission cores produced for the THM-400, making other transmission cases a rare find. No THM400 was produced with multicase bell housings." (wikipedia)
pontiac Vibe is a rebadged toyota matrix. the chevy aveo I was told a rebadged daewoo. My 71 international 1110 pickup had a 304 international motor. 727 torqueflight, dana 60 rear, ford brakes, GM electrical.
The isuzu trooper back in the late 80s early 90s basically if you got the 4 cylinder, you got a isuzu motor but if you got the V6 you got the 2.8 gm out of a camaro. tranny in my friends isuzu rodeo is a T5 5 speed. Jim
The isuzu trooper back in the late 80s early 90s basically if you got the 4 cylinder, you got a isuzu motor but if you got the V6 you got the 2.8 gm out of a camaro. tranny in my friends isuzu rodeo is a T5 5 speed. Jim
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Does anyone remember the Saporro? Was that produced by Mitsubishi?
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the new Duramax diesels and Colorado/Trailblazer chassis is indeed rebaged Isuzu stuff. and GM didn't just take toyotas and sell them here under the Geo, Nova, and Lemans brands-- it was a two way street.. google up the "Toyota Cavalier" once..
i read that in a few years, Nissan is going to get out of the full size light truck market, and sell badge engineered Dodge products. the "all new 2010 Nissan Titan" will just be a Ram with different badges and interior trim.
my 78 Ford LTDII- think Thunderbird with different trim and less bling- had a Saginaw steering box and pump in it. i have a starter on my 81 Ford F250 that looks like a regular Chevy starter- complete with the very same solenoid built into it that every GM had for about 30 years- but with the Ford bolt pattern. i got that starter off a 76 Lincoln.
a late 80's Ford Mustang uses the same front wheel bearings as a mid 80's Chev 1/2 ton pickup.
and let's not even get into AMC products...
i read that in a few years, Nissan is going to get out of the full size light truck market, and sell badge engineered Dodge products. the "all new 2010 Nissan Titan" will just be a Ram with different badges and interior trim.
my 78 Ford LTDII- think Thunderbird with different trim and less bling- had a Saginaw steering box and pump in it. i have a starter on my 81 Ford F250 that looks like a regular Chevy starter- complete with the very same solenoid built into it that every GM had for about 30 years- but with the Ford bolt pattern. i got that starter off a 76 Lincoln.
a late 80's Ford Mustang uses the same front wheel bearings as a mid 80's Chev 1/2 ton pickup.
and let's not even get into AMC products...
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Ford had Mazda make the Probe. Ford made the B2300 for Mazda based on the Ranger. The Navajo is a Mazda Explorer.
Don't forget the Dodge Colt. I think they were Mitsubishis too.
Don't forget the Dodge Colt. I think they were Mitsubishis too.
A company called Fabco made the 1969 only big block power steerings brackets
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virutally every part on every car made by every manufacturer was made by some outside company- or vendor- before getting shipped to the assembly plants to be assembled into the cars and trucks that you see every day.
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^^To steal a Ford sales pitch, we get more fun per gallon.
Re: Did Chevy/GM every have someone else make stuff for them?
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If I recall the Mercury Villager mini van is a rebadged Nissan Quest.
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