Can I place a jack here on a bbc 70?
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Be careful when you open or close the doors. Depending on where you support the car, the frame can sag and cause your door gaps to close up. When you open or close the door the paint will get damaged. It's a YMMV type of thing. Just a heads up.
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Yes, that is where most of us place the jack and stands. Depending on what I'm doing I may place the stands under the lower control arms.
1968 Malibu sport coupe, 489 ci. 590 hp 600 tq, RV T-400 Freakshow 3200 stall, 3.73 12 bolt posi
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That's where I put my jack anytime my front end needs to go up then I put jack stands on the frame rails roughly below the door hinges
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Exactly correct for many of us.
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The worst that could happen??????????? ---------------------------- AND DID HAPPEN TO ME AT CHEVELLABRATION ONE YEAR, is that the car could slip off the jack and the sump of the oil pan could get crushed in!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
One thing I do now when I place a jack under the front cross member, is to place about a 2ft long 2x6 board under the cross member and oil pan sump, then jack it up with the jack pad under the cross member.
FORTUNATELY, the pan was not crushed enough (about 1/4in clearance) to hit the oil pump, but the oil pickup was bent. I was able to drive from Nashville to Okla City with no issues. After getting home, we raised the engine, dropped the pan, hammered the crap out of the pan (did a good job too), welded a couple of places where it cracked from hammering, used my die grinder to smooth the welds and crinkles, painted it, put it all back together and it's been fine ever since (maybe 12yrs now???).
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Happened to me about six weeks ago. Nearly 20 years of jacking up the car and I've never had one issue. On this particular day the jack decided to shoot out from under the car while I was lifting it. Luckily the jack stand on one side was in place to catch the car as it was falling. The jack pad landed on the pan and created a nice dent - the jack handle went through the wall. It was enough of a dent that I could rear the rotating assembly lightly scraping on the pan. I'm fortunate to have friends who are a bit older, wiser, and have extensive experience with fixing and building cars. A little welding and a slide hammer and the pan was pulled out enough to no longer be an issue.
To OP, as everyone else has mentioned, this is the correct spot to jack the car from the front, but things can and do happen. Just remember to take your time and be patient. If something seems off then lower the car and reevaluate. Safety is the number one concern here.
And to add to this, once the car is lifted and sitting on the jack stands, give the car the shimmy test. Just very gently push on the car from both sides to ensure the car is properly seated on the jack stands. It's better the car fall off the jack stands during the shimmy test rather than fall off while you're underneath pulling bolts.
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Same thing has happened to me with nearly the same type repair except I didn't have to weld it. I was getting ready for a Super Chevy event but didn't repair the car in time. So I raced my Chevy powered 78 Omega. Lol
this is an area that I don't skimp on, and I take my sweet time on too. I use the most jack stands I can. I never rely on any jack to keep the car off the ground, nor to even hold it steady. I use six jack stands underneath the car, and each one is rated for 6 tons. When my car is raised up off the garage floor, it will NOT shimmy nor shake one bit at all. I could push the car with all my might in any direction while it's on the jack stands, and it won't budge an inch. It's completely stationary, and solid as a rock BEFORE I get underneath it.
I used to work with a guy who was killed by getting crushed underneath his car when it fell on him during an oil change. His wife and son came home to witness that ugly site of him being dead under the car because he relied on a jack alone. Jack stands are your friend.
I used to work with a guy who was killed by getting crushed underneath his car when it fell on him during an oil change. His wife and son came home to witness that ugly site of him being dead under the car because he relied on a jack alone. Jack stands are your friend.
Well then you either live out in the sticks, (which isn't a bad thing) or you don't get around and talk to guys between the ages of 20 and 35 years old. Because MANY of them never held a wrench, ratchet, nor even a hammer in their life. And I'm talking about blue collar workers! A guy I work with who was 29 years old and married, asked me to stop over his house and mount two wheel/tire combos on his truck, because he never changed a tire in his life. And that isn't so rare these days. They know how to play video games, work their cell phones, and play the stock market. That's about it.
My ex owned a motorcycle, operated equipment, drove a lifted 4x4, worked on her vehicles, owned a landscaping biz and knew which end of a chainsaw to use. Not to mention all the other crap she knew how to do.
I do see that the younger men today don't know much nor have the mental capacity to live without someone babysitting them.
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In defense of the younger kids nowadays IMO its not the fault of the younger people its merely a sign of the times.The thing is since newer cars are way more reliable in all facets than our older ever were there isn't the incentive for younger people to start working on their own cars any longer.The tires that used to last 20-30K back in the 60's-70's now last well over 50K even for cheap tires.They also come mud& snow rated so no yearly snow tire changes needed.Tune-ups that were needed yearly or every other year now are non existent because spark plugs last 100K or LONGER.There aren't any points to learn how to R&R,no wires to remove and forget where they go and no carb chokes that don't open on old cars that need a pen or pencil stuck in them to get the car to start.And then there's the 10 minute oil change places that do an LOF for around $40 or less with a coupon.
Even things in our homes aren't the same as when we were young.I remember bringing the tubes from the TV to the local TV repairman to check for us after my Father had removed them.He would check the 2 or 3 I brought to his store and sell us the one that failed and give us back the ones that passed.I never remember doing that and the TV not getting fixed so they were honest too.My Father showed us how to do plaster repairs and how to replace plumbing pieces.My Uncle came over and showed us how to seal the flat roof of our house.
There's simply nothing for them What I'm getting at is there are many things that are just made as replaceable or more reliable so younger kids no longer have the desire to learn these things when their are people being hired to do them instead of their Fathers.It's even worse for city kids who live in rented apartments or houses for them besides a car there isn't anything to fix or maintain.
Even things in our homes aren't the same as when we were young.I remember bringing the tubes from the TV to the local TV repairman to check for us after my Father had removed them.He would check the 2 or 3 I brought to his store and sell us the one that failed and give us back the ones that passed.I never remember doing that and the TV not getting fixed so they were honest too.My Father showed us how to do plaster repairs and how to replace plumbing pieces.My Uncle came over and showed us how to seal the flat roof of our house.
There's simply nothing for them What I'm getting at is there are many things that are just made as replaceable or more reliable so younger kids no longer have the desire to learn these things when their are people being hired to do them instead of their Fathers.It's even worse for city kids who live in rented apartments or houses for them besides a car there isn't anything to fix or maintain.
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I made a lock to keep the frame from sliding off the floor jacks bowl.
I got a stainless steel dog dish that fits right over top my jacks round plate, I drilled a hole in the center put a heavy duty bolt washers and nut. When I slide the floor jack under the frame the bolt fits right inside that hole in the frame and keeps the jack from sliding off..
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I got a stainless steel dog dish that fits right over top my jacks round plate, I drilled a hole in the center put a heavy duty bolt washers and nut. When I slide the floor jack under the frame the bolt fits right inside that hole in the frame and keeps the jack from sliding off..
Aside from many "city kids" not even having a father in the home, and therefore the boys growing up to become like their mom instead of having a dad around to emulate or follow after, (which is a whole different topic really) I don't share all of your views on this. When I was 7 years old and got my first bicycle, I adjusted the seat on it to my liking with the wrenches I found in the cheap pile of tools my dad had laying around while my dad was at work during the day. After that, I installed my own "sissy bar", generator powered head light, and other accessories that I talked my mom into buying for me from the Montgomery Ward catalog when I was 9 and 10 years old. I'm pretty sure many other boys in the 7-11 age group did similar things to their bicycles. That was how I became familiar with basic hand tools. Boys can still do that today if they wanted to. But most of them have parents who will do it for them, or just bring the bike to the shop to have them adjust the seat height.
Kids now sit in front of their PC or are glued to their cell phone playing video games. So if I was to agree with you, it would be due to the technology inside the home that boys are bombarded with, and showered with by their parents, which hinders them from ever learning how to use tools. I'm an aircraft mechanic for the past 4 decades, and in the work place I've trained 13 other guys in my department. But this last guy who is 34 yrs old didn't work out very well at all, and is the ONLY one out of the 13 who I've trained who doesn't know how to hold a hammer, nor a ratchet, nor can he comprehend how to even use a pin punch. He is the first out of 13 guys I've trained in the past 4 decades who I've had to instruct how to merely hold as well as use these simple basic tools, and even after I showed him several times, still doesn't get it.
He is just like the 29 year old guy who didn't know how to change a tire. These guys even love hi-perf modern cars, but have no interest at all in taking a wrench to them. Not even to change a tire nor to swap out mufflers when they want a more aggressive exhaust sound. They rather glue themselves all day long to their cell phone for social media participation and stock market obsessions, than pick up a wrench, or even watch videos on how to repair and/or modify cars. They've become a unisex generation in which the men are the same as women in almost every aspect. And to my knowledge, that's also what they're taught in school, that boys are the exact same as girls in every way except in their genetalia. It seems to be a lost generation, (or three)But I digress....
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