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Camaro ZL1 VS Acura NSX
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3.5L twin turbo V6 (plus some electric motors) vs. 6.2L supercharged V8. I'd say the Honda is doing more with what it has than the Camaro. And then there's what Derek said. 
Still, both being solid 11-second cars is pretty impressive all around any way you look at it.
Still, both being solid 11-second cars is pretty impressive all around any way you look at it.
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Manufactured in the USA. Granted it is a foreign company but built solely in the Performance Manufacturing Center Marysville, OH. The price tag is a bit much at $160,000.00+
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Yeah, funny thing, my Honda Accord has more domestically produced content than a contemporary Ford F150. Chevrolet doesn't publish foreign/domestic content figures online so it is hard to do a comparison but I assume it was similar to the Ford.
And my Honda was built in Marysville, Ohio right here in the US of A.
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Mid to low 11's for more than 60K? not that impressive. Same goes for the new C8 Vettes mid-11's for over 80K.3.5L twin turbo V6 (plus some electric motors) vs. 6.2L supercharged V8. I'd say the Honda is doing more with what it has than the Camaro. And then there's what Derek said.
Still, both being solid 11-second cars is pretty impressive all around any way you look at it.
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The 3.5L twin turbo V6 PLUS electric motors gets beat by a 1/2 second and 7mph, but it's doing more with what it has??? cmon dude, that doesnt really make sense.3.5L twin turbo V6 (plus some electric motors) vs. 6.2L supercharged V8. I'd say the Honda is doing more with what it has than the Camaro. And then there's what Derek said.
Still, both being solid 11-second cars is pretty impressive all around any way you look at it.
the only reason that race looks close is because the ZL1 slept on the tree.Both are super cool cars. That looks like Bandimere? So the times are even a bit more impressive considering thats 5000'.
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Except that both cars will smoke the overwhelming majority of Chevelles on a road course (or any curvy road for that matter). There is a lot more to those two vehicles than 1/4 mile performance. I'm not fond of the Camaro's looks or the no rear visibility interior, but there is no denying that it performs very well in the corners.
Oh, and the C8 Corvette starts around $60,000 - $68,885 for a 1LT trim, Z51 suspension with magnetic ride control, and performance exhaust.
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I have proven that if you stick the cost of a new Camaro into a Chevelle, you can perform as well as a new Camaro.
But they're all selling for $30k over sticker right now...
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I sure will give you that one on the road course, a Chevelle would get smoked for sure. Good luck finding a new C8 in the 60-68K range, my brother was trying to get one and everything he has seen is 99K and up.
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May be an SS, but not a ZL1.I have proven that if you stick the cost of a new Camaro into a Chevelle, you can perform as well as a new Camaro.
If you order direct from Chevrolet and not take dealer stock, you should be able get it at the $68,000 price. Screw the greedy dealers.
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Almost 2yr wait list at this time. I'm not sure if they're guaranteeing pricing that far out, but I expect MSRP to go up along with everything else that is getting hit with massive inflation.
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I personally don't look too much into cost vs performance. A lot comes down to supply on demand, like the C8 Vette. People want it, and they are somewhat hard to find, so the price is what it is. Look at the last Ford GT. Something like $500,000 to get one, and Ford put in a clause that the buyer had to keep the car for 2 years before selling because these cars were being offer to buy/sell in the millions. Crazy.
Then there is those that say "if I put $60k into my car, it'd smoke that". Well maybe. But most don't account for the cost of the car in the first place. I've seen plenty of $60,000 (listed) muscle cars that would never run anywhere close to low to mid 11s, let alone brake, handle, or ride in comfort as a new Camaro or whatever. Hell there are guys that spend hundreds of thousands of dollars to buy the Barrett Jackson all original cars, and by all accounts they are pieces of junk compared to modern car performances.
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OK. Let's add LOTS of corners, and, while we're at it, how about some long straights too?Now add a corner to the track.
Camaro ZL1 1LE - Nürburgring Lap Times
Chevy Camaro ZL1 1LE Nurburgring record It’s official; the 2018 Chevy ZL1 1LE is the fastest Camaro
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and the NSX?
Honda NSX lap time at Nürburgring Nordschleife - FastestLaps.com
2016 Honda NSX finished a lap of Nürburgring Nordschleife in <b>7 minutes and 36 seconds</b>
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7:16 for the Chevrolet, 7:36 for the NSX.. a long ways apart..
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Interesting... I expected more out of the NSX.
Its AWD system makes it pretty formidable on short courses, like autocross. (watched TOMO racing do quite well with one at KOTM a couple weeks ago)
I'd guess the 'ring is fast enough that AWD is of little benefit, yet twisty enough that the heft of batteries and 2 drive systems was more of a disadvantage than an advantage. I believe they are in the 4000 lb range.
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