[harleighguy]

Ok Mark now what??

I followed your recommendation in another post concerning pushing out the short ball joint from my GW lower arms and found that the Howe tall ball joints that I purchased from SC&C don't fit at all. Gokou says that the GW ball joints are Moog "Problem fixer" units and as such are larger in overall diameter. Well he's right. Does Howe make a larger diameter balljoint body to fit into the GW lower arms?? I'm sitting with one arm busted down till I get an answer and the other arm I won't touch till I get an answer. I'm a bit miffed at spending $170 bucks on Howe lower balljoints that I can't even use at this point.

 

[LateNight72]

How big of a difference is it? Is there play? Or do they just slide in and out without resistance? If the later, I'd just give them a few tack welds and be done with it. (three welds positioned at 12, 4, 8 o'clock)

 

[Chicken Coupe]

Whatever the issue, just call Mark instead of posting. I've called him several times and all but once answered personally.

I am SURE he can come up with an answer and solution!

 

[harleighguy]

LateNight72,

The joint is VERY loose in the arm... Tacking them in won't help out at all. The Howe joint wallows around badly. It's not even an issue trying to put them in at this point. It wouldn't be so bad, but the joint I pressed out came apart so I can't even reinstall it.

 

[tunedbytad]

I have the BJs that cam out of my SPC / SC&C lowers just sitting around and I'm in CA.
You pick um up you can have um CHEAP!

 

[JodysTransmissions]

Whatever the issue, just call Mark instead of posting. I've called him several times and all but once answered personally.

I am SURE he can come up with an answer and solution!

Ditto

 

[Mark SC&C]

I already responded to this in the other post here. I still no phone call...
The Howe ball joints are OEM size. The size GM originally made them. 99% of the time they fit fine in aftermarket arms even thought they had oversized ball joints in them. I`ve pressed them into GW arms several times myself with no problem. Measure the Howe ball joints and you`ll find they`re spot on. If the bores are so big you can`t even tack them in then the bores in the arms are way oversized.
Give me a call and we`ll get you fixed up. Don`t get angry,this is all just part of hotrodding. If it was easy anybody could do it. Mark SC&C

 

[gearheads78]

,this is all just part of hotrodding. If it was easy anybody could do it.

Thats sig material right there!

 

[Mark SC&C]

Oh,it just occured to me. If the GW lower arms were originally intended for use with B spindles they use B body sized (larger body) ball joints rather than the hybrid machined down ball joints used in stock lower arms. That might explain it and it would be a quick and easy fix. If that`s the case just send the BJs back to us and we`ll swap the housings for free. Mark SC&C

 

[Chirp08]

Oh,it just occured to me. If the GW lower arms were originally intended for use with B spindles they use B body sized (larger body) ball joints rather than the hybrid machined down ball joints used in stock lower arms. That might explain it and it would be a quick and easy fix. If that`s the case just send the BJs back to us and we`ll swap the housings for free. Mark SC&C

that could explain it, I selected the "stock" option when ordering mine, hence the tall ball joints worked fine, B-body was an option, I can see how someone could equate AFX = B-body and select that.

 

[harleighguy]

Sorry Mark,

It turns out that YOU hit the nail on the head. Went out this evening and did some inspecting. The arms I have are for the B-Body tall spindle setup after going back to GW's site and comparing invoice Part Numbers, however that's not what I ordered OR so I thought~ There is no way to identify the arms by just looking at them since I can find NO part numbers anywhere on them. I will need to get the one arm back to normal and try and return these for the STOCK replacement arms.

I don't know what would happen by using these "Negative Roll" arms with stock spindles if the balljoints were changed over to a "stock" taper tall ball joint with a larger body. I have 459 CNR 42L arms and needed 459 CTA 42L "G-Plus" arms.