[Angry 69]

So I removed back seats to look for documents of build and clean area and fix my electric windows, I found water has been leaking down in there for and has created some rust at the base of the fender wells,I did find water in the trunk after buying the car too. I was told this happens to alot of these cars, there is alot of sealant around the back window that looks factory but it may not be. Whats the real story here, I can post pics in awhile

 

[cheveslakr]

Happens to the best of 'em. They start rusting around the molding clips, then the cancer grows. It's been common practice to just squirt sealant of choice around the factory seal in hopes of a quick fix. Never works long term. You're in for a bit of work to fix it correctly, and if it's a non-garaged car, I'd think about adding drains to the lower "sump" area so it won't puddle continuously. If it's a vinyl top car, you may have even more issues.

 

[Raven1]

Sounds like you are the newbie with zero experience or drive. Start evaluating the problem. Use the meat between your ears. I built my first car on gravel when I was 14.

 

[Dean]

Sounds like you are the newbie with zero experience or drive. Start evaluating the problem. Use the meat between your ears. I built my first car on gravel when I was 14.

Why do you constantly post derogatory stuff running down members rather that posting helpful advice?

Yes you have told us many many times that you are perfect but how about sharing some of your expert know how rather than bad mouth folks.

 

[Kirk's67SS]

Why do you constantly post derogatory stuff running down members rather that posting helpful advice?

Yes you have told us many many times that you are perfect but how about sharing some of your expert know how rather than bad mouth folks.

Dean this is a example of someone the TC site should put on a time out or suspend for a week or more
rather than punishing all of us like when the CE Forum was closed down

 

[Angry 69]

Thats what you got out of that post Raven1, what kind of person are you, I took it all apart but I didnt remove the rear glass or vinyl roof , so I got some info here that was helpful and was wondering if any one else had this issue, I will clean treat rust, rear what I need too and paint under there, I am a newbie to the car but a life long builder and wrencher.

 

[Raven1]

Why do you constantly post derogatory stuff running down members rather that posting helpful advice?

Yes you have told us many many times that you are perfect but how about sharing some of your expert know how rather than bad mouth folks.

I've posted countless advice. Don't understand why people take no initiative to problem solve simple things. Use your brain if you are a gearhead.

 

[Edgar T]

Sounds like you are the newbie with zero experience or drive. Start evaluating the problem. Use the meat between your ears. I built my first car on gravel when I was 14.

Bully for you. Don' t get the nasty comment? This is suppose to be a forum where all can feel comfortable asking any question. Enough!!

 

[blm]

Well IMO that is what Team Chevelle (get it TEAM) is all about. Folks with an interest in classic cars helping other classic car people out by sharing information and experiences. I have absolutely no problem with any member asking other members for information or advice on any issue involving their car or a friends car. The only thing that kinda perturbs me is when someone is given solid advice and then ignores that advice. Fortunately that seldom happens.
If everyone was a classic car guru then there would be little need for Team Chevelle. The only reason for it to exist would be to brag about how great they think they are.

 

[dabeld]

So I removed back seats to look for documents of build and clean area and fix my electric windows, I found water has been leaking down in there for and has created some rust at the base of the fender wells,I did find water in the trunk after buying the car too. I was told this happens to alot of these cars, there is alot of sealant around the back window that looks factory but it may not be. Whats the real story here, I can post pics in awhile

Since your glass is in and your vinyl roof is on the best next step is to get a light and reach into the trunk and take some pictures of the bottom corner of the window channel from inside the trunk This will tell you a lot. Here is a picture from the trunk of what I am talking about. This one has the glass out, so you can see some daylight where there is a rust perforation, but otherwise doesn't look too bad.

Here is a picture of a corner where the glass is in and there is a more obvious problem - if yours looks like this, then you'll have some work to do.

 

[Capt Casey]

Yes the A body GM have a weak area in the window channel where the glass is set in and sealed. The weakness is they were never painted in this area with anything other some primer at best.
IF you carefully remove the stainless trim around the rear window glass. There is a tool for this so you do not ruin the metal or the clips. You can then clean this area out and possibly paint and seal the area in question. Sadly if it is already leaking...You may have to pop out the rear glass and do some major body work to fill the hole/holes from rust. It may be the lower channel has debris from years of sitting and there are pin holes...IF you are lucky.
These can be cleaned up and welded then prepped for primer and paint.
If the Corner is rotted out you can replace that area with a patch panel designed for that lower left corner IE drivers side lower area of the rear window.

Again these cars weren't designed to last past 7-10 years at best! As daily drivers they have seen their share of bad weather in all climates..
Check out the posts in the Body shop area of the site and search for rear window rust repair and you will find the links to help you through this...
It is common and there is little you can do temporarily to avoid repairing it properly.
other area to look at are the front fenders behind the wheel. lower rear Quarter panels behind the rear wheel and top of dash on the drivers side or all along the dash where it meets the glass from the Windshield. Condensation gathers here and rots it out!

Good luck and keep asking the questions!

 

[pcguy]

I originally subscribed to this thread awaiting pics that the OP implied he would post. Pics help a lot.

And for Raven; as for using your brain, you can't make assumptions about what the OP may or may not have done in prep for posting his question. We all come from different backgrounds and levels of understanding. Really should lighten up...

 

[Dean]

I've posted countless advice. Don't understand why people take no initiative to problem solve simple things. Use your brain if you are a gearhead.

Yeah, you have posted countless advice like -> "use your brain, I've been doing this stuff for over 40 years"

 

[Raven1]

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Yeah, you have posted countless advice like -> "use your brain, I've been doing this stuff for over 40 years"

Give me a break. I have posted countless advice in the body shop forum. Do you own a shop and work on these cars 7 days a week?Do you deal with others who are well known in the biz? Had your work been featured in publications?. Mine have and I'm proud of it.

And yes. Use your brain to figure out simple problems. I would never hire anybody to work in my shop who could not do simple things.

 

[Raven1]

I originally subscribed to this thread awaiting pics that the OP implied he would post. Pics help a lot.

And for Raven; as for using your brain, you can't make assumptions about what the OP may or may not have done in prep for posting his question. We all come from different backgrounds and levels of understanding. Really should lighten up...

Ok. I'll lighten up. Just used to people who have been buildings cars from scratch for over four decades. No internet babysitting back then. Just brainwork.

 

[Dean]

Okay Scott, my apologies if I missed your posts where you actually explained to somebody how to do something rather than just insinuating to them that they were dumb with no help at all.

Really though, you don't have to keep telling us how good you have been doing this stuff for over 40 years over and over.

 

[Angry 69]

great advice here, thanks, couldnt get pictures today, I try to do all I can to my car, but I have put nails in wood for 45 years that my specialty, I want to make sure I am doing the right thing for my repairs, and I value the info all you guys have here, I dig in to a project then ask questions but do it myself,

 

[Angry 69]

got a couple shots of the problem too but not from under neath yet

 

[Michael Ro]

No worry, purpose of a forum is to ask questions and get help from the guy´s who wanted to. I personal don´t understand why people have time to write useless words.
If you want to solve your problem in a good manner then make pictures to show what happens and where.
Because nobody have a glassball to watch inside, like a fortune teller.
In my expereance a water leak at windows is never a easy solve problem.
Window must be dismantled. And issues comes with disassembly. Pictures you shown is only the result of a bigger issue

 

[TwoFeathers]

I think it is preventable today by keeping the area under the trim clear of dirt and debris and using a MetroVac to dry.

If the person who owned mine previously had not fixed it with galvanized metal and bathroom calk, I would not have to deal with floorboards rotting from the inside out in addition to reconstructing the lower rear channel.