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66 Chevelle SS

This looks like a nice 66 but missing some of the original major components. Do you think it is worth the Buy It Now price?
 

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Kinda looks like someone else's car that I know...minus the vinyl top:D
 

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Seller seems like they have a bit of an attitude issue. :confused:

Car looks like a nice driver, but not a $37,500 one IMO.
That's kind of what I was thinking too, Dale. Close to home, but not sure I would want to deal with the attitude. :(
 

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It's a dealer's car. I'd be willing to bet he'd take anything over 30, well after the auction has ended of course.
 

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Kinda looks like someone else's car that I know...minus the vinyl top:D
That's kind of what I was thinking too, Dale. Close to home, but not sure I would want to deal with the attitude. :(
Didn't this guy claim in the past that they only made a few 1966 SS396's with factory air and 4 speeds? I'm sure it's the same guy...:confused:

Edit: Yep...same guy. His name is Ridge and he's out of Tulsa...

I emailed him in August of 2006 on ebay asking about his claim of very few 4 speed AC SS396 Chevelles. Here is his response:

Hello! As mentioned in my item description, I've been into 1966 Chevelle
SS396s since acquiring my first one at age 16, back in 1970. I've owned
several, and then later in life, became a used car dealer in the late 1970s,
thru 1980s, and then a Chevelle enthusiast, who has literally seen thousands
of 1966 Chevelle SS396s. In this 36 year experience with them, I have never
seen another true, 1966 with factory air, and a factory installed 4 speed,
other than my current one. I have seen probably 20 to 30 that had either the
4 speed, or the factory air added by someone after it left the factory. I
knew by this fact, that it had to be relatively rare, so, started digging
research back around 2000, trying to find factory build records. Well, there
aren't any complete factory build records from the 1966 model year, other
than the total Super Sports built, and a count of what options were ordered
in what numbers. There were tens of thousands of air conditioned cars, but
99.9% of them were powerglide automatic transmission equipped, as most
people that ordered 4 speeds, wanted raw power, and not a car loaded with
options like air conditioning, that would rob horsepower away from the back
wheels.
The I noticed an oddity about my 1966 Chevelle SS. It is a low mileage
(47,000), almost 100% original car, but it has a 10 bolt rear end
differential. Well, everybody knows that all Chevelle Super Sports had 12
bolt rearends, so I natually assumed that mine had been changed out by a
"salvage" unit. But under close study underneath the car, you could see that
mine appears to never have been ever tampered with, or any bolts ever had a
wrench on them. I was at a huge Chevelle show in 2001, and an old man who
had worked for GM back in 1966 in one of the plants that built Chevelles,
told me that an internal factory memo came out that specified that any
Chevelle ordered with both a 4 speed, and factory air, had to be built with
a 3:07 rearend, in an attempt to prevent the driver from "racing" the car,
and over-reving the air conditioning compressor, that wouldn't stand over
4,500 or so rpm. This was speced in an effort to prevent warranty claims on
the compressor.
Sure enough, my rear end differential is a 3:07 10 bolt rear end. It's the
only one I've ever seen in a 1966 Chevelle Super Sport, and only Super
Sports had the extra trailing arms to brace the rear end differential under
load.
I finally found a list of how many options were ordered on 1966 Chevelle
SS's, and only 33 cars got the 3:07 rear end.
Do I have proof of this? No, but I trusted the gentleman who worked at the
factory back then about that memo. Unfortuantely, he, nor I have a copy of
it.
What rear end differential do you have, 10 bolt, or 12 bolt, and what gear
ratio, and can you tell if it's original to the car, thru stamped codes, or
inspection of bolt heads, etc? Ridge in Tulsa.
Bruce
 

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Interesting...he makes no claim to this "rare" 10 bolt in the ad. Now it has a "non-original" rear. What do you bet it now has the 12 bolt?? No pics or mention.

Good gosh, Bruce...you keep emails from 2006? :D
 

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Interesting...he makes no claim to this "rare" 10 bolt in the ad. Now it has a "non-original" rear. What do you bet it now has the 12 bolt?? No pics or mention.

Good gosh, Bruce...you keep emails from 2006? :D
Ridge is a good friend of mine. He is definately a stand up guy. Both he and his wife are wonderful people. I was at his house last summer visiting and going over some details regarding his 66.
Ridge was mis-informed regarding the 10 bolt rear end...someone told him that the rear end was original to his car. When I checked it out, I found that it was from a 64 or 65 Chevelle (I don't remember which), but definately not original. He is now aware of this fact and as you can see from his current ad, he honestly admits that the rear end is not original.

IMO who cares, the car is a driver and the rear end is not a part that is VIN specific to a car anyway. It would be extremely easy to swap out the 10 bolt for a date correct 12 bolt.

I can tell you that the car is a clean driver...solid
It is a real A/C 396 car with its factory born engine.
 

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IN A WORD NO NO NO The engine bay for that kind of money is a disgrace
Its not numbers matching deal God knows what is under the vunyl top not to mention you have already mentioned two quater sized rust holes in both quarters again You would have to tear into them to realize the true damage IMO Not for my money.
There are better deals.
I would rather buy a car that needed paint than one that shines and is popping rust
 

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Ridge is a good friend of mine. He is definately a stand up guy. Both he and his wife are wonderful people. I was at his house last summer visiting and going over some details regarding his 66.
Ridge was mis-informed regarding the 10 bolt rear end...someone told him that the rear end was original to his car. When I checked it out, I found that it was from a 64 or 65 Chevelle (I don't remember which), but definately not original. He is now aware of this fact and as you can see from his current ad, he honestly admits that the rear end is not original.

IMO who cares, the car is a driver and the rear end is not a part that is VIN specific to a car anyway. It would be extremely easy to swap out the 10 bolt for a date correct 12 bolt.

I can tell you that the car is a clean driver...solid
It is a real A/C 396 car with its factory born engine.
Hi Orlando...so you have seen the car in person and you have looked at the deck stamp, trim tag, etc and know they are good? Do you think it is worth what he is asking? Or what do you think it is worth?
 

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Hi Orlando...so you have seen the car in person and you have looked at the deck stamp, trim tag, etc and know they are good? Do you think it is worth what he is asking? Or what do you think it is worth?
Hi Jacquie,

I looked at the deck stamp and the cowl tag...it all checks out
As blubu points out, it is not a perfect car...But it does have factory A/C, an option that many people find very appealing...especially those that live in warm states like OK.

Ultimately a car is worth what someone is willing to pay. And if that someone is looking for a nice solid SS396, factory A/C car with original motor and a 4 speed trans, then he/she may be willing to make the investment.

Although it is a blatantly obvious fact to all in the know that the 66 Chevelle is the most attractive and desirable of all Chevelles :cool:, Personally, I tend to gravitate towards BB 4 speed Convertibles and L78 cars. Therefore, it is difficult for me to offer an opinion regarding this particular Chevelle. However, I do feel that the starting bid is reasonable...
 

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Yeah Jacquie...I save emails from '06...LOL.

I need to clarify why I saved the email. I saw in his original ad from '06 that he said just a few '66 Chevelles came with AC and a 4 speed...and since I have one...I thought it was interesting.

That's why I emailed him through ebay...to find out where he had gotten the information. He was nice enough to respond right away...which is more than you can say for most people on ebay...:thumbsup:

That's all!:D
 

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Yeah Jacquie...I save emails from '06...LOL.

I need to clarify why I saved the email. I saw in his original ad from '06 that he said just a few '66 Chevelles came with AC and a 4 speed...and since I have one...I thought it was interesting.

That's why I emailed him through ebay...to find out where he had gotten the information. He was nice enough to respond right away...which is more than you can say for most people on ebay...:thumbsup:

That's all!:D
And where did he say he got the information?
 

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Although it is a blatantly obvious fact to all in the know that the 66 Chevelle is the most attractive and desirable of all Chevelles :cool:
Well said...and I totally agree! :yes: Thanks for the info, Orlando. :)


Yeah Jacquie...I save emails from '06...LOL.
I need to clarify why I saved the email.
That's good to know...I was thinkin' you had one heck of an email cache going on there! :D



In a word: NO.
Man of a few words...but one word from you is all I need to make a decision on this one! Thanks, Mikey ;)


IN A WORD NO NO NO
LOL - Thanks Larry, very insightful. :thumbsup:



I was posting for a friend and in hindsight, I should have looked at the car/auction a little closer myself before posting. Thanks to all for your input.
 

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And where did he say he got the information?

Dale, if you read the body of his email that he sent to me...the answer is there

Well, there
aren't any complete factory build records from the 1966 model year, other
than the total Super Sports built, and a count of what options were ordered
in what numbers. There were tens of thousands of air conditioned cars, but
99.9% of them were powerglide automatic transmission equipped, as most
people that ordered 4 speeds, wanted raw power, and not a car loaded with
options like air conditioning, that would rob horsepower away from the back
wheels.
The I noticed an oddity about my 1966 Chevelle SS. It is a low mileage
(47,000), almost 100% original car, but it has a 10 bolt rear end
differential. Well, everybody knows that all Chevelle Super Sports had 12
bolt rearends, so I natually assumed that mine had been changed out by a
"salvage" unit. But under close study underneath the car, you could see that
mine appears to never have been ever tampered with, or any bolts ever had a
wrench on them. I was at a huge Chevelle show in 2001, and an old man who
had worked for GM back in 1966 in one of the plants that built Chevelles,
told me that an internal factory memo came out that specified that any
Chevelle ordered with both a 4 speed, and factory air, had to be built with
a 3:07 rearend, in an attempt to prevent the driver from "racing" the car,
and over-reving the air conditioning compressor, that wouldn't stand over
4,500 or so rpm. This was speced in an effort to prevent warranty claims on
the compressor.
Sure enough, my rear end differential is a 3:07 10 bolt rear end.
I thanked him for his time...and I may have contacted a well known person on this site for his take on what was said.

That's all...it's really no big deal to me.:noway: I'm not up on production totals, rarity, etc. I just drive my Chevelle;)

I just found it interesting.


Hey Jacquie...Hopefully I will get some time off for SEMA this year. We will DEFINITELY have to hook up

Bruce
 

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Hey Jacquie...Hopefully I will get some time off for SEMA this year. We will DEFINITELY have to hook up

Bruce
Yes, absolutely! My favorite thing about SEMA is the party! (I could care less about 32 acres of wheels and tires.) You HAVE to get off work for that! :yes: When does the party get scheduled anyway? Hopefully it's not too close to BJ, I don't think we could get away two weeks in a row.
 

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Yes, absolutely! My favorite thing about SEMA is the party! (I could care less about 32 acres of wheels and tires.) You HAVE to get off work for that! :yes: When does the party get scheduled anyway? Hopefully it's not too close to BJ, I don't think we could get away two weeks in a row.


You (Or me) have to watch the Lateral-G site periodically to see what's up...;)
 
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